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    242 killed by returning soldiers

    The six-month battlefield stint didn’t diminish Azamat Iskaliyev’s appetite for violent revenge against women.

    The 37-year-old was sentenced to nine-years in jail after he killed his wife by stabbing her in his car in the summer of 2021 because she wanted a divorce.

    Soon after returning to civilian life, he knifed an ex-girlfriend more than 60 times in the shop where she worked in October 2024 after she rejected his advances.

    For that crime, he was jailed for more than 19 years, according to court records in the city of Saratov.

    This case is one shocking example of the social problems that could await Russia as thousands of prisoners turned soldiers return home following an eventual end to the war.

    Verstka, an independent Russian media outlet, reported that by October 2024 almost 500 civilians had become victims of soldiers returning from fighting in Ukraine.

    The report said at least 242 people had been killed, and a further 227 were gravely injured, citing data from Russian court records.

    Russia about to perform the miracle of becoming an even shittier place.

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      There is some irony is that the main part of a public sentiment in favor of Putin is that there wouldn’t be another 90s era of violence and economical instability as long as he is in power. Well, the economy is somehow stable in how it degrades, but the amount of street violence climbs on. Out of last three times I took a fight in my block, first was in ~2008, last two happened in 2024, both with dead drunk proud boys in vomited over camo clothes, asking me if I served. It’s not yet the 90s level of chaos, but I can’t imagine having a daughter there. Many, as I’ve heard, share the same anxiety, but nevertheless can’t figure out who created that problem in the first place.

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    Wait, are there any convicts left? The have casualties in the tens of thounds per month, I would have guessed they were the prefered ones…

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      The have casualties in the tens of thounds per month

      It’s been a joke for years now that if Ukrainian kill counts were accurate, they’d have decimated the entire Russian army multiple times by now. Russian media has made similar claims of Ukrainian armed forces.

      Both national media are doing the Vietnam Kill Count rhetoric to say they’re winning a fully Pyrrich War.

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        Jep, except according to their own recruitment claims (which are naturally also off), they either have casualties in the 10s per month, or much more troops in Ukraine than anyone can cofirm.

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    I thought the point was to get them killed as fodder before they could return home.

    They maybe get a few Ukrainian kills in, and no longer have to pay to incarcerate a person.

    They can’t even get that right?

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    Putler dead within 6 months. You heard it here first.

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      He was overheard on a mic with president Xi telling him about organ transplants to prolong life.

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        He probably just shoots himself in the head. Or Mossad 2.o gets him. Or the ulcer. Or the Botox from his fluffy little cheeks seeps into his brain. Or the windows… darn Russian windows

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      One Friedman Unit is equal to six months, specifically the “next six months”, a period repeatedly declared by New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman to be the most critical of the then-ongoing Iraq War

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        Broskys about to stroke out from the stress. His own body will kill him if not someone else. When you’re responsible for a cumulative 1.5-2.5 million deaths, you’re not a person people are sad to let go.

        Economy tanking, losing the battle, 1.5 million dead Russians, he’s not the mafia-fluencer he was in his youth. Lavrov is a fat slob, dude can’t even stop his own drooling.

        Modern warfare is entirely non beneficial to huge land masses. Try playing air defense swap-a-roo when the next missile or drone is 1k km away.

        Also if Europe decides to ram his ass, they will, that will be his excuse to wind down the war, but to get to that tipping point, is so stress inducing, no amount of drugs will help. The drugs induce a spiral.

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          Here’s hoping. I’m not so optimistic about Europe really flexing their muscles, but I look forward to being pleasantly surprised!

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            Europe’s producing more rounds and providing more artillery than Murica. When the Yanks provide some old junk they appraise it at 50X the value then bemoan doing god’s work while leaking Intel.

            Europe and Ukraine are flexing. They’ve decimated Russia’s military without any European boots on the ground (although they should be in the fight imo, it devalues Ukrainians to let them be the only one taking casualties for defending Europe). Then again, in 20 years, Ukraine will be telling Europe where and how to manage their militaries.

            Ukraine was the powerhouse for arms manufacturing during the Soviet Era and they’re quickly retaking this position.

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    Everyone here jumps on the band wagon, but seriously, 500 is nothing. It will do absolutely nothing. He could not care less.

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      The 500 number is the number of victims from returning soldiers as of October 2024, not the total number of incarcerated soldiers in service as your comment implies.

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        Yes, but that is nothing. They loose 1000 soldiers every single day. Why should they care about a few (Russian) victims per month extra? Putin does not fear that at all. It is so irrelevant he might not even know about it to begin with. Let alone destabilizing the whole society, that is pure nonsense.

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    The only thing that he’s actually good at is having powerful propaganda machinery that would have left Brezhnev deeply envious of.

    Otherwise and outwardly, he looks unfazed at some military setbacks, but he still have legions of Black Hundred fanatics having bought the concept of Russia as the center of the world.

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    The cost of war:

    10X-15X the battlefield deaths occur after the war is over. When the well cared for soldiers come home in a proper mental state. 10 times! Sustainable?

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      Hudson and Den Boer trace the rise in offspring sex selection in China and India that has resulted in a “surplus” of young men. They argue that such surpluses of men increase the potential for internal and external violence, while diminishing the prospects for democracy. This phenomenon could destabilize the two countries, the region, and beyond.

      This was written in 2002. Seems like the pretictive power of the theory isn’t too strong.