Remember, the American Nazi party had a ridiculous amount of traction. Enough to fill Madison Square Garden for Washington’s birthday. Those people didn’t just vanish after WWII. They didn’t denounce their beliefs. They just crawled into the cracks like cockroaches.
Also the Nazis took example with the pledge of allegiance as an effective tool for indoctrination of school children. In the US it also used to be done with the same gesture that is now the Nazi salute.
Furthermore eugenics and race theory were prominent as “sciences” in the US and the Nazis also took example there. If it wasnt for the alliance to the Japanese and Pearl Harbor, the US might well have been on the Nazis side of history, given that the social and ideological culture had many more similarities than disagreements.
While your comment about the Nazis getting a lot of their eugenics ideas from America in the 20’s-30’s is accurate, there’s no way in hell that we’d have just accidentally ended up in the Axis powers like that.
Were there Nazis in the US? Absolutely. Was their ideology common and/or the majority? Not at all.
We were literally allied with countries that the Nazis were attacking, and assisting them with supplies long before we ever entered the war due to Pearl Harbor. That’s before we even get into things like the Zimmerman note which indicated that the Germans in WW1 wanted to engage us as an enemy, which doesn’t bode well for their actions against those same allies 20 years later.
You’re taking the fact that eugenics existed here in the US and making up a metric fuck ton of revisionist history surrounding it.
You say all that, but remember the time Prescott Bush was part of a group of rich and powerful men that tried to overthrow FDR and install a fascist government?
The raised-arm salute isn’t inherently bad, it’s bad now because the Nazis did it. And so, America using a similar salute before the Nazis doesn’t mean America was as evil as the Nazis.
Out of the shadows and into the light.
your meds, take them
Nah I’d rather buy a gun and fight the war.
This is seriously funny! Too bad so many commenters are apologists.
Oh great, we’re doing political feel-good posting on this site too? Such low hanging fruit.
There’s definitely a discussion to be had for how the very far right (people whose core political ideology is based in racial prejudice and literal palingenetic ultranationalism) latch onto the sole major conservative political party in the United States and how they, as a component voting block, are catered to, if not explicitly represented by, portions of that party, and even dog whistled to by the party as a whole. This post, though, comes across as straight liberal smugposting and is somewhere between completely useless and actively harmful.
Well then take the first shot and start the war… Otherwise it’ll just be drama memes for LIFE.
The war is inevitable… The sooner it starts the sooner it’s over. Neighbors, family, cops, thugs, there’s no knowing who the enemy is. It’s everyone vs everyone…
I see no point in furthing my personal life and goals until something real is done.
Walt Disney would be proud
Let’s be real, it should be the American flag not just the Republican logo.
They’re not utterly fascist, you can’t do that to the last remnants of sanity left over in the states
Yeah it really depends on your area.
Oof. 🤭
To be honest, a lot of Republicans are still very respectable. The republican platform is fucked up, but if you are talking to your neighbor, don’t make his party affliation equal to his personal belief. A Democrat doesn’t believe in everything in the Democrat’s platform either.
In that sense, insulting a party is not generally helpful for public discourse.
Ok I hate that you are beeing down voted. The downvote button is not the “I disagree” button, but more like a “this does not help the discussion” button. And your point was fair and your opinion. If you agree or not does not matter. That’s the point of a discussion for fucks sake.
Pls don’t get to that reddit point of downvoting. The downvote behavior was so nice here the first few weeks, after I joined, but got so much worse after the last very big reddit migration wave.
Is there any “Memes” community that doesn’t post shit like this? We non Americans don’t care about this, we just want some fun memes and not being forcefed your culture war crap.
United Fruit Company —> Chiquita
Not as much of a rebrand as a merger
Got em!
I thought this is a “A community of privacy and FOSS enthusiasts” and this is the first shit I see as a new user?
Have you considered people are moving further right because your labeling them as such?
People are hurting and the right is blaming people (because that’s what the right always does), and people are eating it up. I’ve got a bunch of friends that are currently drinking the hate-machine cool-aid, but when I ask them questions to explain why they hold those views, they just simply can’t answer - propaganda works.
For example, a good friend of mine last week said in a car full of people he wished everyone in California died of a massive nuclear blast and he would throw a party on the news of their millions of deaths. I called him out about it to explain why - he said the governor was fucking everything up. I asked for a specific detail, he couldn’t think of one other than yelling woke woke woke. I asked him what woke means, he said he doesn’t know but it’s bad - gays and rainbows and trans and something about he has to like it. Needless to point out that he is a victim of the hate machine (his kid came out as trans, and I asked if he wanted his kid to be mistreated, and of course he wants the best for his kid…)
People don’t form these opinions where they wish the death of millions of unknown people all on their own, and they usually get echo chambered into those extreme views first.
Yeah propaganda works just like how it has worked on you.
You don’t see me wishing for the deaths of everyone in some state because my news channel tells me the governor of that state is a bad guy - perhaps if you actually had something better to say we could discuss this topic
No one is immune from propaganda not even you.
That’s the saddest, softest, snowflake excuse you could use.
It’s because you call us rapists we just have to do all that rapin’. Dontcha know.
The dumbest excuse.
I’m sorry but fried chicken isn’t racist, it’s just fried chicken.
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I’ve said this many times. Republicans are bad…and democrats are just as bad, the only difference is what they pretend to care about. You might’ve seen a democrat promise good things, but not a single one of them has ever even tried to get any of those things done
“BUT WE DON’T HAVE THE VOTES YET!”
FDR didn’t have the votes either. He used his popularity to twist arms for the votes he needed. LBJ did the same thing. AOC and the squad could just as easily do that too, but they’ve wasted every opportunity they’ve had to pressure Pelosi and Schumer to do something.
Oh by the way, remember why we couldn’t have a vote on medicare for all or raising wages because the current speaker Kevin McCarthy would become speaker? And then when the democrats did nothing at all McCarthy became speaker and the people got nothing?
Did you know that a majority of republican voters want medicare for all once they understand what it is? “We need to go to the center and be against medicare for all to get votes from the other side”
Meh. Only one party wants to take away my rights or stop my friends from getting married because they’re both women, make birth control illegal, kill people for performing in drag and let 12 year olds get married. . Your idea of “just as bad” is a little strange.
Classic “both sidesism” that neglects reality.
Republicans don’t actually care. Y’know why? Because many of the oligarchs are gay too.
I’ve said this many times. Republicans are bad…and democrats are just as bad
Fail right out the gate.
Name one thing the democrats did that was good for regular people. Something they actually tried to get done instead of just complaining that they don’t have the votes. Something that they actually fought for instead of caving in to the republicans after 2 seconds.
