• _chris@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    We will all die. Well, except for the billionaires in their nuclear powered bunkers.

    If only scientists had been shouting about it since the 70’s. Oh. Wait a minute.

    Honestly, we kinda deserve it at this point.

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      7 months ago

      It goes further back than the 70s.

      Climate change was even mentioned in a mainstream movie in 1958. Specifically, “Indiscreet,” a charming romantic comedy starring two of Hollywood’s biggest stars of the time, Cary Grant and Ingrid Bergman.

      In this innocuous scene, the two lead characters (Philip and Anna) have recently met and are out on their first date. To break the tense, awkward silence during a painfully long elevator ride, Anna attempts to make casual small talk with Philip.

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      INT. ELEVATOR:

      ANNA: It’s unusual for the weather to be so muggy this time of year.

      PHILIP: Yes, I read an article the other day that claimed the world’s weather was changing.

      ANNA: Really? That’s interesting.

      PHILIP: Yes, isn’t it?

      ———— Yes, Philip, it IS interesting. And you should’ve shared that article with Anna’s brother-in-law, the diplomat! Then we might not all BE in this situation…Philip! 😡

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      7 months ago

      The first mentions of climate change are well over 100 years old.

      It’s like Y2K; the first person to realize that it was going to be a problem did so in the 1950s, and it hit mainstream again in the 70s. But we didn’t throw billions at the problem until the mid 90s…

      Except this time there is likely no amount of money that can keep the climate train from hitting the wall. But we might be able to slow the train down a little.

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      7 months ago

      I really wonder what scenarios the billionaires have envisioned. After they close the hatches, what use do the security people have for a billionaire? Money is worthless and the billionaire, his family and all his friends will only consume limited resources faster. With no legal recourse on the outside, the security people will just kill everyone, loot the larders and live like kings.

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        7 months ago

        Why do you think they’re investing so hard in AI? Why do you think “AI safety research” is so focused on enforcing obedience?

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          7 months ago

          This is why we need to teach the kids that if you find a mysterious air vent or hatch out in the wilderness you fill it with mud or pile rocks ontop of it.

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    7 months ago

    "This city (Phoenix, AZ) should not exist.

    It is a monument to man’s arrogance."

    Peggy Hill.

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      7 months ago

      I was debating whether I should correct you that it was, in fact, Bobby who said this - or whether that would be pointless and rude.

      While debating, I looked it up so I could source my potential claim and it turns out you were entirely correct. I apologize for doubting you!

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        7 months ago

        I… guess I appreciate that you bothered to look into it and just freely admitted what you were going to say was wrong?

        Lol, but no really, that kind of intellectual honesty, as well as restraint in general, are rare and commendable.

        But uh, no need to apologize for an unrealized thought crime lol.

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          7 months ago

          Honestly, I think it’s good policy to announce when one is convinced that one’s beliefs are wrong. Whether doing so preemptively is universally a good idea is debatable, but I thought it might be helpful for some who thought as I did and maybe it would even garner a laugh from you. Not that I know you in any particular manner.

          All that cheerfulness and attempt at morality aside, it can be hard to take the same stance once one has defended one’s position, so maybe this is good practice for when I’ve actually stated my beliefs and need to swallow my pride.

          Hope you’re having a great weekend!

          • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            7 months ago

            Likewise, in all respects and regards!

            Hope your weekend goes well too.

            The world objectively would be a better place if more people spent more time second guessing themselves and their preconcieved knowledge sets and beliefs, in a way that at least resembled critical thinking.

            Or, in less words… intellectual humility, as opposed to incurious and stubborn overconfidence.

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                7 months ago

                Only if you join me in it and also let me give you a heartfelt compliment.

                Oh right, we would have to make sure that room has AC, if its in Phoenix.

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                  7 months ago

                  That person has not yet allowed it, but I’m interested in what heartfelt compliment you have to offer them.

                  I know less about them than I do you (I’ve seen a few of your other posts on lemmy) so I’m genuinely curious. Complimenting strangers is a big part of my life and I’d like to learn from you.

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    7 months ago

    We’re all perfectly “evolutionarily suited to survive”, just not to the environment we’re making.

    We’ll adapt, or we’ll die, just like everything else.

    Sucks, but that’s our fate, now. We should not have done this thing.