• Apytele@sh.itjust.works
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    First of all I love this question. My suggestion is that you shuffle a deck of cards, flip them over and note their exact order, then shuffle again and note the order again then keep shuffling and checking the order until the deck resets to the original shuffled order. It’s gotta happen eventually, but it might take you a while. In fact a lot of people have studied that very specific problem and there’s actually really good odds that every shuffled deck you’ve ever held has been the only deck of that order in history. So, yes, it almost certainly has happened somewhere, but good luck finding it.

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      It’s like when playing the lottery, if you say you’re picking all your numbers in a sequence, like 1,2,3,4,5 and 6. People will tell you’re crazy because sequences like that “never” happen. But the same is true for every other combination of numbers too. The sequence just makes it clearer how unlikely you are to ever pick the winning numbers.

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      It’s gotta happen eventually, but it might take you a while.

      A while is a great euphemism here… A deck of 52 cards (poker playing cards) has so many potential orders that it is said that each time someone shuffles a deck nowadays, it’s really likely to get a deck order that has never been gotten before!

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      What’s more fucked is the “perfect container” thought experiment with infinity.

      Take for an example an apple, you put it in your “perfect container” that nothing can pass thru. This is a hypothetical, it doesn’t exist.

      What happens to the apple?

      Fucking everything. It will rot and degrade, eventually breaking down to fundamental elements, but all the energy/matter to make an apple is in there. On an infinite timeline that stuff will go thru every possible permeation. Including an exact and perfect copy of the very same apple. Even if it takes billions and billions of years.

      Maybe at some point in the middle. You get an orange.

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        no because entropy.

        an apple is more like an ice sculpture. energetically far from equilibrium. once reduced to a puddle, the molecules will never spontaneously rearrange into the sculpture. It will just be a puddle. the molecules, yes, will constantly rearrange, into also, a puddle.

        there has to be a force to act on them to push them out of equilibrium.

        life is a state of matter held far from equilibrium.