• gedaliyah@lemmy.world
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      Yes but this is a bad headline. The article is about specifically using US military to attack cartels, which the Trump administration has already made legal for themselves by recategorizing them as terrorists.

      It is still a violation of both international law and common sense.

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        I imagine most militaries have contingency plans against enemies and allies ready to go. Wouldn’t be much of a defensive force without them. (I know that the US is not a defensive force. I live here. We will 100% take over your country for borderline no reason.)

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      Doesn’t DoD have detailed attack plans for every nation already?

      Yep. I would be more surprised if there wasn’t an attack plan for any country with more than 5m people.

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    He’s trying to imitate Putin. Probably go about as well as it has for Putin as well.

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        They went from Ukraine being a Russian vassal state to a prospective NATO/EU member with 80% of their territory intact. What’s their next move, invade Belarus and end up half of that become an EU member too?

        That said, Putin has not walked away with 20% of anything just yet.

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    The US isn’t ready for a two front war where the whole world wants to get rid of them. They don’t have the cards.

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      Please… I’m not a big fan of the US right now either. But that is just an absurd claim. No one is going to willingly open up a front against the US.

      Like it or not, but they absolutely have the cards.

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        US doctrine since WWII has been to have the muscle to fight on two major fronts and one brush fire. We’ve gone down to one major front.

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        what "front? there are already millions of Mexicans deep in the USA that would not stand for an attack on their country

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          Let’s entertain your idea here for a second. How do you think that’s going to go?

          My guess, the at the first hint of any type of insurrection, best case. Latinos and Japanese-Americans are gonna have something in common. Worst case; full blown ethnic cleaning carried out by local militias.

          I’m not condoning either. That’s just what I personally think might happen.

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            the vast majority are economic migrants… and yes talk to any Mexican, they are loyal to Mexico, always and forever

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        Canada would know that if the US attacks Mexico then it would be next, that would be the only time to fight.

        There isn’t a choice, this means Europe joins.

        Europe joining means China will join so that it can replace the US in Europe.

        Mexico at war is going to bring many countries below it in because they don’t want to be the next smaller country on the US doorstep.

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          Canada isn’t a smuggle route worth billions.

          The only reason they could even potentially go into Mexico is due to the Cartels and their billion dollar drug trade. (I don’t have facts saying it’s a billion dollar drug trade. But I’m making an educated guess that’s it’s worth a shit ton of money)

          There is just no way in hell Canada would ever strike first on the US and be the aggressor. Even if Canada would strike at the US, why the hell would Europe side with Canada? They are now the aggressor. Attacking a fellow NATO member no less.

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            The realism of my previous statement, no one would view it as a strike first, it’s retaliation for attacking Mexico.

            The alternative is to just get picked off one by one.

            After Canada comes Denmark so be realistic about it.

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              Ehm… I disagree. Everyone would see it as a first strike. Because that’s what it is.

              Canada has no military alliance with Mexico as far as I know.

              I honestly can’t believe you put the words “be realistic about it” in the context of Canada striking the US.

              If Europe didn’t do more than sending weapons to Ukraine. Why would they do anything more to Canada? Which, would be logistically, an almost impossible task.

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                Giving Russia control of the North Atlantic is a much bigger threat to Europe than giving them access to the Black Sea.

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                  What are you even talking about? Russia already have access to the Black Sea. And have had since the birth of their country.

                  And what do you even mean “give them control” of the North Atlantic? When was the last time you looked at a map of the globe?

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    Ah, roght out of Isreals play book, invade a country on the basis of eliminating terrorists/gangs

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      If this was a competent president. I would probably give them the benefit of the doubt.

      But we all know Trump only cares about one thing. And it’s not the US. It’s himself.

      He may very well be under the impression that it will somehow give him more time in office, or it’s just some way for him to try and get better approval rating. How he is percieved by the US is of major importance to his ego.

      He hates how his approval is lower than Obamas. And he probably hates how his approval is lower than G.W.Busch.

      G.W.Busch had an approval rating of around ~60%. Then a certain incident happened and his approval went to as high as 92% at a certain time.

      Trump might, for some reason. Think that him starting/provoking a war will give him a similar boost.

      Ofc to you and me it sounds insane and we know that’s not going to improve his rating. But we are reasonable, normal people with common sense.

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    Faltering empires always flail about militarily. Part of the death throes.

    That said. It would almost be worth him doing it just to see what happens when Mexico invokes Article 5.

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        Well poo. Still. It’ll be fun to watch the US lose another war.

        25 years of recent living memory experience and we still can’t fight an insurgency. Let alone one that already knows all our best training and techniques.

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    US - China proxy war of attrition coming or nah? Americans finally understanding the horrors of war might push their society into positive change…

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      There’s a lot of countries that are sick of china’s shit, I think the US would actually have a lot of support in a proxy war.

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            Do you think Poland would send men to a war against Mexico as they did to Afghanistan after abandoning Ukraine and Europe? Do you think the Commonwealth would be as staunch a US ally after the UK directly contradicted US foreign policy on Ukraine and the US threatened to invade Canada? Do you think Japan and Korea are not hedging their bets (meaning opening up to China) on the US since Trump started undermining those alliances too?

            My dog, if the US got attacked, the Western world would maybe help at this point, but if it wasn’t an actual invasion, just another 9/11, we’d probably just send thoughts and prayers and a gift card.

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    They’re not really though or else we wouldn’t hear about it until invasion day. It’s more of his art of the deal bullshit

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      Do you really think Trump would keep ihis mouth shut in favor of tactics? Have you even seen him talk?

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        Guess a lot of trump supporters on this sub, judging by the downvotes :( I’m trying to say it’s just Trump playing chicken again, trying to intimidate Mexico into doing something for him

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      Go join the military if youre so fucking excited. Otherwise, fuck off with that shit. Fuck war

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        Go start a revolution if you don’t like Trump, but I guess it will be a war, since no one will stop him soon or later.