Extremely proud to announce that I just swimmed (swam? swum? eh…) from the beach of Mazzaro to the Grotta Azzurra, and back. This is the first time I went to the sea deep enough to not touch the ground lol.

I think that swimming on the back is the most tire-less method, while front crawl is the fastest but requires the most energy. But this is just my opinion, any advice on how to swim in the ocean? The salted water in my nose still sends me in a little panick mode, but I managed to calm down and continued. Will do again

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    I’d say the butterfly is the most energy intensive way to swim, and dead man’s float is the least energy intense.

    Swimming is the best exercise you’ll ever do, and you should be able to do it for most of your life. You can do it to get ripped, you can do it to rehab.

    The 2 most important things when swimming are: don’t get overconfident, and don’t mess around with safety. The ocean absolutely doesn’t care about you, and it’s amazing how little it’ll take to become disoriented. Never swim halfway past where you can’t see the shore, and never swim more than halfway past the longest you’ve swam before.

    Saltwater is generally fine if there are no nasty organisms in your neighborhood, but fresh water swimming can kill you if the water is stagnant or polluted.

    If you’re looking to swim for exercise or fitness my biggest recommendation (after goggles) is get yourself a speedo/teva suit (if you don’t want a banana hammock get the thigh length shorts), you’ll be amazed how much further you move per stroke and how much less energy it takes to go from a to b.

    As I’ve said in another reply, the most efficient stroke with easy breathing is probably the backwards frog, it’s very easy to learn, just pulse like a jelly fish while keeping a bit of your face out of the water.

    I’m glad you had a great experience and you’re looking to continue practicing! Knowing even the basics can be life changing.

    If you ever find yourself under water and can’t tell which way is up (this can happen surprisingly easy), follow your bubbles, bubbles always go up

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    TL;DR when you learn breathing in the right way, crawling is the best

    I began swimming regularly 10 years ago or so. Nothing serious, just a couple of times a week, to try to keep my back in shape (spoiler: it wasn’t enough for that but it is really good for heart and lungs)

    Well, initially I found that backstroke was better for me too, because I wasn’t able to breath regularly during crawl and I wasn’t comfortable having my head in the water all the time (and water in the nose… Not a good feeling)

    In the long run I learnt to breath well, and to gently push air out from the nose while the head was down. So now I feel much better crawling than backstroking. In the sea even more, because while backstroking, a wave can hit my face and send water in the nose easily, and this doesn’t happen while crawling.

    Then, to each their own, but this was my experience

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      do you keep your head under water in the ocean ? if yes I don’t know what to say, the salted water eats my eyes and nose , how you manage it

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        Back frog is the easiest for breathing, but if you’re trying to get anywhere efficiently the crawl is the fastest and easiest to breathe with

        Get yourself a pair of goggles, nobody should take the brunt of the ocean directly to their eyes. If you’re interested in the ocean get a half mask that covers your eyes and nose, and honestly you can find a cheap snorkel as well and you don’t need to worry much about breathing at all.

        Please be aware of local beach conditions, if there’s a spot that says don’t swim it’s not worth the risk, even if it looks calm, hell especially if it looks calm.

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        As @donjuanme@lemmy.world mentions, I swim with goggles, it’s much better. Morever since I was having issues in the pool with clorinated (I’m not sure it’s the correct term) water I also use a nose clip. But when swimming in the sea (Mediterranean sea, no ocean, usually) i don’t mind the water in the nose, as I told, I usually keep it out by slow expiration, so that air pressure keeps water out. But a good mask covering your nose would be a good solution too, as suggested by @donjuanme@lemmy.world

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        As others have said, goggles. But also, people have been swimming in the ocean doing things like diving for pearls or spearfishing for thousands of years. If you do it enough, you’ll get used to it.

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        Like they mentioned, slowly blowing air out of your nose can prevent this. Or, if this isn’t working for you, you can get clips to close your nostrils, but they might not be comfortable with a longer swim.

        Personally I like to swim with a mask and snorkel, as it’s much easier and more relaxing.

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      Idk, I swam the 500m freestyle for 4 years in high school. I still think I’d prefer the jellyfish or sidestroke for swimming really long distances in open water.

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    Try drowning. By that, I mean once you’re in safe waters like a pool put yourself in a stressful position like diving under water without a proper breath in etc. The goal is be ready for discomfort same way skate boarders learn falling so when you actually get into trouble you have some experience on how to react.

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      Only do this in water you can stand in and close to the wall, preferably with a friend with you. People still drown in pools with lots sometimes.

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    Sidestroke is the best way to deal with waves IMHO. Pretty much so long as you keep calm and your lungs nearly full of air you’ll be alright breast stroking. I just hate being surprised by waves. Same reason I don’t backstroke even on big lakes.

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    Learn to tread water for ~20 minutes without many breaks. That can help you figure out a lot about your body and how to work with the water

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    “swam”, I think.

    I never quite learned to swim. Well, I can stay afloat and intentionally move in a direction, but it’s more like tactical flailing. Back in school the teacher gave up on me learning to swim with proper swimming strokes. I stick to what works for me.

    I’ve “swam” a lot in the ocean, and I’ve found that unless you know how to bodysurf (which I sometimes manage to pull off) a vertical style is better as it makes it easier to keep your head high and above the waves.

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    Congratulations on learning to swim.

    The best place to learn and perfect your swimming skills is in calm water, with lots of people/lifeguards around. Like a swimming pool or lake.

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    This swimming stroke advice may only work in calmer seas.

    For best efficiency, I find my own modified survival-sidestroke feels the easiest.

    Frog kick with your legs, then each arm alternates pulling water from ahead.

    The arm that is ‘closer to the water surface’ pulls with a half-stroke from near your chin, back to waist level.

    The arm that is ‘far from the water’s surface’ pulls from a long stretch out front, back to waist level.

    Alternating these, and doing a mini-glide on each stroke. I think my glide is after the long stroke from out in front to the waist.

    Every 10 or so strokes, roll over to switch the arm that is doing the long stroke.

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    An alternative the front crawl is the doggy paddle. Kinda the same, but saves you from taking your hands out of the water. Even as someone who’s swam my whole life and can swim pretty much any stroke I still doggy paddle a lot especially in salty water

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    Swimming on your back is the thing to know. So face up, body as straight as you can get it, and when you have lungs full of air (possibly also without lungs full, depends on your physique) you will effortlessly float. Then just propel yourself by treading with the legs, waving with the hands, or both. Zero stress swimming. You can flip around and go fast in the usual modes of swimming and then gather strength by flipping back.