Hello everyone! I have been de-googling my life for a few years. I don’t have official YouTube clients anymore. At this point I use PipePipe, a fork from New Pipe to watch videos.
But as a Spotify and YouTube Music replacement, I am currently using Outer Tune.
My problem is that with or without Proton VPN usage I get errors again and again. despite closing the app, switching off the VPN etc. At this point it’s impossible for me use Outer Tune any longer.
What are you using?
claryfication:
on the long run im looking to build a offline media vault. but for the moment. i want to use a Spotifiy alternative, where there are suggastions… for new music that i like.
i tried Rimusic a while ago can’t say why i find’t like it anymore.
i love making playlist offline with it and PipePipe is a dream but its not right for me for music
I love bandcamp. I wish I could put more music i bought into my collections though.
Not sure why nobody mentioned it yet, but I switched to Metrolist a while back when RiMusic/ViMusic stopped working. Never had to look back and never had issues so far.
RiMusic is still working fine for me
For real? ViMusic is archived since October '24… same goes for RiMusic which was archived… yesterday? Ok, I wasn’t even aware of that - last I knew was that it became a local-only client when the dev gave up fighting against the constant api changes on youtube side.
Anyhow, glad it somehow still works for you - it’s been a great app.
Hmm, OK. Guess I’ll probably have to switch soon then
Looks good 👍
I’ve been loving Qobuz so far. Migrating our family was easier than I thought.
Plus it comes with a free music migration tool.
Qobuz distributed royalties due to labels and publishers corresponding to an average amount of US$0.01873 per stream
This means that Qobuz generates on average five times more revenue per user than the market average,
How much does Spotify pay per stream?
Spotify pays artists between $0.003 - $0.005 per stream on average.
That works out as an approx revenue split of 70/30 - so that’s 70% to the artist/rights holders and 30% to Spotify.
Funkwhale may worth a look: https://www.funkwhale.audio/ I used for quite some time and was nice, the main issue was the unmaintained Android app.
I’ll get downvoted but to find music and have a tiny hair of privacy Apple Music may be efficient for the mainstream audience.
I download the audio that I like and store in a local server but I can’t expect every person in the world doing the same.
youtube-dl your songs.
I use InnerTune with proton VPN (though I had to exclude it in the split tunneling setting) and all works just fine.
do you know the difference between Innertune and Outertune?
No idea unfortunately. But it looks to be a fork. Not sure if I tried it or not before I ended up using Innertune.
But I know these alternative Youtube frontends gave me issues with the VPN, had to exclude also Tubular in the split tunneling for it to work for me.
I use Musify from F-droid for what your describing.
To be honest though I only really listen to my offline collection and radio/internet radio for discovering new music.
Check out The Indie Beat. It’s an internet radio station playing music from artists on the Fediverse, like Radio Free Fedi used to. All my favourite discoveries from the last couple of years have been by or via Fedi artists.
I mean, if you are into Metal, https://en.metal-tracker.com/ and an airsonic server will get you pretty far. anarcho-punk.net can help suppliment that. If you like other forms of music, it can be harder. I often have to resort to using a downloader to get files from youtube. Sometimes you can find things on the postman tracker using i2p. The current state of torrenting is pretty much shit compared to what it used to be, but that is because most people settled for spotify. If you value quality music, from quality artists, you should pay them for their work. If that means buying a record or a tape from somebody, then you should consider investing in that sort of media. If it means downloading, you can always look on bandcamp or the many alternatives that now exist both on and off the fediverse (bandwagon is a cool new fediverse option). There are a lot of great bands just giving away their music online. Maybe consider sometimes paying them for what they do if you are like me and you can’t afford to always pay everybody all the time. Spotify makes things cheap and easy and thats why you are getting massive amounts of AI slop music being uploaded now. It just isn’t worth it as a real musician to put your music on there anymore. So until we as music lovers decide that it’s worth supporting artists in some new way, things are only going to get worse and we are going to have to put up with a lot of shitty platforms making shitty choices for shitty reasons. The first step is having this realization that spotify and youtube are shitty… not just to artists but to users. But if you want to really be able to enjoy music again, it probably involves finding a way to directly pay artists for their work while cutting out as many middlemen as possible. I highly suggest building a library of your own. It isn’t the cheapest thing in the world. You might have to buy a few hard drives to make sure things are backed-up, maybe a raspberry pi to run it all on and depending on how technical you are, you might have to learn some new skills in order to run it all, but with that setup running an airsonic server and the subsonic app on your phone, you can listen to your own music(and podcast) collection from anywhere. It’s worth the effort in my opinion. You could even run airsonic as a tor hidden service if you want (then you don’t have to even punch any holes in your routers firewall).
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I’m using SoundCloud via the browser. I enjoy the suggestions, keeping things fresh.
For offline on mobile I use their app which does have an offline mode for your “Liked” songs and specific playlists.
If I wanted an offline library proper, I’d sail the high seas but I personally do not feel the need for it for now.
Spotdl
Sabnzb + lidarr + jellyfin/finamp?
If that YSK post about Deezer’s main shareholder CEO wouldn’t have come out, then I would have suggested that, since that’s what me and my friends are using in the family plan after being disappointed with Tidal as a Spotify alternative.
