I wanted to buy something second-hand. Unfortunately, Facebook Marketplace is the shit where I live. So I thought I could quickly register, contact the seller, and delete my account afterwards.
However, I refuse to participate in this insanity. Video selfie my ass, Facebook.
To confirm your identity…
Yeah, bullshit. This is to help train their facial recognition AI.
I mean, it’s a bit of both.
I don’t think they care if you’re real anymore
They care quite a bit.
Bots and spammers make for miserable revenue generators. If you don’t distinguish your marks from your players, there’s no way to make money at the poker table.
I would agree with this if Zuck hadn’t been in the news recently talking about how Meta is desperately filling their userbase with bots, on purpose
I would agree with this and in fact I do
~ Mitch Hedberg
and if they find or know a way to sell that with the other data colleted from you, they will proudly do it
For years people have given me the blinking stare of unbelief when I tell them I’ve never had a Facebook. Now being absent on that platform and others is seen as suspicious. I got a buddy who couldn’t complete a job application because Facebook was a mandatory field in the electronic form. The border Gestapo and the State Department require your socials for visa applications. A friend told me that she wouldn’t date a guy without socials because she browses them as a kind of background check.
Fuck Meta.
Apparently you’re a modern horror story.
That’s a generational thing. 99% of my friends and people of my age I know have never had Facebook.
Instagram, however…Too old or too young?
Too young. Most facebook users are actually boomers nowadays.
For years people have given me the blinking stare of unbelief when I tell them I’ve never had a Facebook.
The same people who two decades ago would have look at you sideways for using internet to talk with strangers. These idiots always conform to what is popular.
Same, I always assume the worst with big companies and/or data.
They were always scummy.
Never gave my name or info, never been on social platforms unless there was a good reason to be on them.
I got this on one of my joke accounts years ago.
I googled “3d face generator”, clicked on the first website, and slapped in an image of trump. Then I just rotated the 3d model following whatever the instructions were, and it worked lol
which means a bot could also easily pass the test, even though they claim it’s for checking you are not a bot
Discord asks your phone number for logging in from different locations when you already have TOTP 2FA and they still try to gaslight knowing your phone number is for your “security”
I would sooner put my nuts in an iron vice while running 10.000 volts through it and lighting it on fire than provide Facebook with anything at all.
Me too, but it has nothing to do with Facebook. Don’t kink shame me.
How about putting googly eyes on your nuts and making a video selfie of them to send Facebook?
🏀🍆👀⚽
that might actually get him verified
I think I will steal your wording for future use.
Have you ever had a Facebook account?
Nope. Managed to stay off of it for my entire life so far. Reason for it was that back in '05 or a bit later one of the very first things I learned about the nascent Facebook, was Zuck’s famous “Dumb fucks” remark about his early users. I rightfully concluded that someone with such a mindset would be an absolutely plague on mankind and I would never willingly help them in any way, no matter how insignificant.
What socials have you had then?
Reddit until two years ago, and now Lemmy. That’s honestly it.
Same for me. I never understood what motivated that content and, by extension, why I should care about consuming it.
Ooo you had a cheeseburger tonight! IDGAF.
Some witty political insights! Fuck off.
Your child was born! Wonderful, send an email or an announcement card in the mail.
Large scale emergency! I’m going to a reputable news source; I don’t need user-curated echo chambers.
Old friends and acquaintances catching up? I’ve had the same cell phone number for 25 years. If they wanted to reach out, they can refer to the phone number I wrote in the yearbook.
It’s just dumb.
Fair enough, I honestly applaud you for that, because you’ve managed to avoid the data sucking machine of meta and its services
I had one many years ago because my wife talked me i to it and ‘deleted’ it due to not using it after a couple years because it was showing me other things than just my contacts even back then. It was mostly a way to see my hogh school acquaintences and childhood friends who moved far away were still alive.
The superficial connections were fine, but not engaging like nearby friends. I have one friend who does post there and sometimes forgets to put it elsewhere, but my wife lets me know when he does.
Note: I put ‘deleted’ because there is zero chance they deleted anything other than the ability to log in.
Even if you don’t have a facebook account, you’ve got a facebook account.
“We, a company that has allowed AI generated propaganda to run rampant and destabilize global politics, need to make sure you are a real person so you must provide us with a video proving you are real that we totally wont use for AI and facial recognition purposes.”
Zucky needs your image so he can share with with Homeland, in case you visit too many liberal pages.
Video selfie my ass
That probably won’t work, since they expect your face. Worth a try, though.
I fucking hate that marketplace is the new place to find second hand stuff. Meta developed a marketplace to keep people on their website, not to have a good place to sell stuff. There are existing options they were actually developed as marketplaces that are slowly dying because of Meta’s crap product.
Is Craigslist shit now? What happened to it?
Its still the same as it ever was, just less traffic and they charge five bucks to list vehicles now. I still use it but responses are a lot slower.
Fediverse alternative to Facebook’s Marketplace
Last time my buddy sent me a Facebook link, it wouldn’t let me view it without giving them my phone number. I did not.
You can scroll around a tiny bit vefore you are forced to make an account. This is good because it prevents new joiners.
Not on mobile I couldn’t. Full screen prompt for my phone number. No way out but to put it in or just close it.
Might be different for different styles of content.
It could be. It was a video.
Discord does this for logging in from different places a lot which is bonkers to me how many people dont care about it, it doesnt even matter if you have TOTP 2FA activated, they still try to gaslight the need for phone number is for “security”
I quit facebook 10 years ago. I am 67. If this old fart can quit so can you.
Don’t make it easier for the american fascist government to identify you even further on Facebook.
I am now, and will forever remain, a child of the old internet.
When your username was all that other people knew about you, and you didnt even like them having that for anonymity reasons, lol.
I continue to be baffled about how people on the internet went from “Don’t tell anyone, anything about you!” to "Hi My name is Dan Rutherford, I like at 5849 Blasse Rd, in Tarry Birch,Kenfucky. Heres a picture of myself, my wife, my children, and a list of everything expensive I have in the house. Also my childs bedroom window wont lock. Anyway, we’re going on a 3 week european vacation now! Expect hourly updates!
PS: Heres my birthday, and my childhood elementary school, where I was born, and the name of my childhood dog. In case anyone needs to answer my security questions"
Fb is nothing more than promoting right wing propaganda.
I read so many of the comments and concerns, and I don’t even disagree with them!
Just want to add my two cents.
Lots of people are talking about how they resent that Marketplace has become the place to sell. I get that.
However, this is more of the same in an ongoing evolution of online ads & classifieds.
Originally eBay was King. Craigslist was kind of under the radar and not enough of a threat that they did anything about it.
Then all kinds of little online competitors to eBay started to pop up and they were becoming reasonably successful.
eBay then acquired PayPal so they could squash up startups. It worked. They no longer own PayPal but things change.
Kijiji popped up and was eating eBay’s lunch on a local level. Instead of competing, eBay spun off local classifieds to another company which acquired Kijiji.
I don’t even know all the back and forth wranglings, but it’s all a giant multi-corporate game that’s been played for 30 years.
Then all kinds of different “out of the box” storefronts started to appear.
Now Meta got in the game and they are keeping eBay and Kijiji “honest”. They’ve gone ahead and integrated it with Messenger and other apps so you never have to leave their ecosystem.
It literally took 30 years, but I am finally content as both a buyer and a heavy seller, with all of the online options available. I no longer feel like they are trying to wrangle every penny out of me as of seller, and they let me voluntarily pay to promote my sales in MY terms.
That said, I’m not sure how I feel about needing so much information about people just to make an account.
On one hand (I’m very biased towards the seller’s perspective) I can actually see the need to apply as much verification as possible for new accounts. It’s been a severe deficiency in their product for years and years and years. And as a seller, I am exhausted with bots and fake accounts and people who want to hide in the shadows, there’s no reason to do that when you’re buying a vacuum off me and want to come to my home to pick it up.
On the other hand, I made my account years ago so I’m not subject to this requirement. But if I put myself in the shoes of somebody making a new account today. Holy fuck would I not be impressed with this.
I really don’t know what the answer is. I would never upload ID or a video of my face to them. I don’t know what’s needed here.
On one hand
C’mon, with a bit of effort you could have made this one into 5 paragraphs each one sentence long too!
Where is the #Fediverse #craigslist alternative? Lets get going, people!
I’ll start us off.
One used Nike shoe - size 13 - $40
Used Nike shoe. Left foot only. Mild grass stains and small hole in sole that can be easily repaired. Cash only. No low ballers.
Oh nice, I’ve got half a tube of shoe glue. $20 obo. No low offers, I know what I’ve got.
$5 and can you deliver?
This person has used FaceBook Marketplace - truly going for the corner office here at LemMarket!!!
Hey this reminds me ive got some still pretty nice nike workout shoes I never wear. Theyre not for sale though
You tease
The infuriating part is people willing to use Facebook at all.
And Facebook marketplace and buy nothing are helpful. We need to get people off that crappy platform.
Craigslist still exists, I use it fairly often.
I have a store in a small town that ONLY communicates though the book of faces. It is frustrating to say the least, but it seems like people on facebook assume that everyone is on facebook and the things on facebook are reflective of reality (they are not).
So full face capture how is this not a violation of privacy? You know they’re keeping that shit.
Different angles makes me thinking they’re using it for ai training
It’s also a very common age assurance tech since forgery of ids is trivial to do now.
Literally over ten years ago, they wanted a photo of my government ID.
Haven’t had an account since
Literally over ten years ago, they wanted a photo of my government ID
I sent in a fake one, they accepted it.
same happened with me then a few other friends which made it easier to convince them to leave Facebook
