• DaddleDew@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      Maybe Fairphone should criticize Graphene OS for the non existent support of Fairphone devices.

      Seriously I’d get a Fairphone with GrapheneOS in a heartbeat should it become available.

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        7 months ago

        for the non existent support of Fairphone devices.

        There is a good reason they dont do that. The Fairphone is a real piece of shit from a security (or even a consumer) standpoint, especially because no single phone from the got more than 2 Android versions, and even then they are just months to Years behind(ert) on security updates. The Grapheneos team has a sctrict set of minimums a phone should provide in order not to mislead users by branding an insecure OS with a name associated with security.

        GrapheneOS only used Pixel until now was because they a) didn’t have to reverse engeneer that shit and b) it had a few rare security features.

        And now that they have to work a lot more to make their OS work, it is a really stupid idea to demand support for an inferior product which they would rule out by default.

        But for now, Ill just keep wondering when the EU will Sue Fairphone into bankruptcy for not even obeying the minimum support period

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    gOS threat model is “everything everywhere all at once” - nation state actors et al - and from that standpoint, yeah, eOS and lOS and whoever else is lacking.

    but the vast majority of users have a threat model that can be boiled down to two things:

    1. a lost/stolen device doesn’t compromise me - the fucker can’t get at my stuff and/or impersonate me, and
    2. free from apple’s/google’s reign - I control what stuff runs on my phone

    both easily accomplished with lineageOS and derivatives running on a $50 phone. if you truly want to spend four digits annually on Newest & Best, you do you, I’m good.

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      7 months ago

      I bought a refurb Pixel 7 on eBay for like ~$150 and put Graphene on it. It’s not like you have to spend four digits unless you want to.

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      7 months ago

      e/OS is just particularly egregious. This isn’t about GrapheneOS being paranoid, it’s Murena not delivering the most basic level of security patches, then hiding it.

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      I’ve got the top end latest Pixel model and it did not cost me 4 digits. Bought one used, so Google never got my money. Immediately put grapheneOS on it, this phone in its pre-gOS spyware form never had access to my actual data in the first place. Or even a real network.

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    7 months ago

    So what do people run on their fairphone? Graphene has been the only non mainstream commercial mobile os I’ve heard of even on lemmy.

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    7 months ago

    Not necessarily agree with the tone of the headline, but happy they are finally taken into consideration when talking security.

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    Honestly I’m with the GrapheneOS team on this one pixels (A series mostly) are relatively cheap and you can easily find them second hand for even a cheaper price so I don’t think you gonna save anything by the repairable Fairphone and on top of all this they lag behind security updates too just more reason to avoid them. Ofcourse that’s just my opinion

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    7 months ago

    I used e/OS for a very short time a few years ago then learned about some of their security practices. This isn’t a new problem with that version of Android.

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          I did, you said a few years ago. IE not the Fairphone 6.

          unless you’re a time traveling scumbag?

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            What I remember most was having to make an e/OS account a la google in order to be able to use the ROM, and some of the third party apps it shipped with were of dubious origin, mainly Chinese IIRC. I’d heard other sources talking about it being behind on patches then as well. Overall, it gave me the ick, especially the account bullshit, and I continued with Lineage.

            Not sure why you feel the need to call me a scumbag.