Hello, how do you document your home lab? Whether it’s a small server or a big one with firewall and more nodes. I have a small pc with Proxmox and there I have a VM with OpnSense. After I’ve entered my VPN as a interface in OpenSense, I noticed that I slowly lose the overview with the different rules that I have built in my firewall. And I know that my setup is relatively easy in comparison to others here in this community. I want to have a quick Overview at the various VMs, like the Lxc container, Docker containers that I have in this and the IP addresses that I have assigned to them. I search for a simple an intuitiv way for beginners.

    • @foggy@lemmy.world
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      I operate on the philosophy that it is better for me to relearn things than lean on old documentation that may no longer be accurate/relevant.

      The best way to implement a safe connection to my home lab today might not be the safest way tomorrow.

      Old dog, new tricks, etc.

      Also! Your documentation is an attackers wet dream.

      NB: this philosophy doesn’t scale.

      • @Unforeseen@sh.itjust.works
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        227 days ago

        I do this continually for work as well, I approach every new project assuming best practice or approach options have changed. It doesn’t matter how experienced I am in what I’m doing, I still loop back and check.

        It’s such an automatic thing I don’t even think about it, but honestly not sure if it’s because of interest or because of fear of being called out for doing something wrong lol

      • @CapitalNumbers@lemm.ee
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        225 days ago

        while security might be compromised if an attacker found your documentation, it could equally be compromised by having zero documentation

        the easier it is for you to get things back up and running in the event of a data loss / corrupted hard drive / new machine / etc, the less likely you are to forget any crucial steps (eg setting up iptables or ufw)

        • @foggy@lemmy.world
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          Having 0 documentation doesn’t mean you have no DLP strategy. That’s amateur hour.

          And again, NB: this does not scale.

    • @nfreak@lemmy.ml
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      My wife was mentioning the other day that if something happened to me she’d have absolutely no idea how to work any of this shit and that convinced me to actually start documenting it LMAO

      Good time to start doing it too. Aside from setting up a NAS this weekend and figuring out an audiobook solution (not something I’ve ever dabbled with but I really should start reading some communist theory), I’ve got this project right where I want it for a long while.

    • @redlemace@lemmy.world
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      327 days ago

      Guilty too. There are names on router- and switch interfaces. Servers get fixed IP from dhcp so is in the note field there too. That’s about it

  • LoudWaterHombre
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    2127 days ago

    I am fortunate enough to only manage a homelab and not an enterprise sized network. So I don’t document anything just like at work.

  • @atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
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    2027 days ago

    I build my infrastructure with the terraform, Ansible and helm charts. The code is it’s own documentation as well as comments in that code explaining why I’ve done things if it’s not obvious.

    • @ch8zer@lemmy.ca
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      This really is the way.

      It goes beyond documentation too - it allows me to migrate to new hosts or to easily automate upgrading the OS release version.

      I have a docusaurus site for my homeland and I have ansible and terraform generate files for the docs so I don’t have to record anything. Some of the stuff I note down:

      • DNS leases
      • General infra diagrams
      • IP info
      • Host info
  • Brayd
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    1327 days ago

    I just created a note in Obsidian with the Excalidraw plugin.

  • @ryanpdg1@lemmy.ca
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    526 days ago

    I use the notes sections in proxmox preeettty heavily. Lots of links to the helper scripts, youtube videos and other resources i used to get er’ goin’.

    In the near future I’m really hoping I can set up Netbox to help me document the network and equipment I’m putting in my homelab. a nice thing is that I went through a divorce a while ago and I’m getting to start from scratch. You’d be surprised at just how much you’ve learned since starting to self host and I think there’s this sunk cost fallacy that gets a lot of us to keep going with what we’ve got already set up because we’ve “already put so much work into it” and the concern of what we might lose by scrapping it and starting over.

    Also, not what you asked… but if you’re still relatively new with proxmox you should check out the ProxmoxVE helper scripts. Lots of good automated scripts from doing a post-install to setting up various LXC containers and VM’s

  • @thirdBreakfast@lemmy.world
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    I have it in a git repo, broken down by the nodes and vps names. In each of these folders is a mixture of Ansible playbooks, docker compose or just markdown files with the descriptions. Some is random stuff - my VPS allows the export of the cloud firewalls as JSON for instance. All the secrets needed by Ansible are in an Ansible vault, the rest in KeePass.

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    I’m curious how everyone documents their core/critical configs to allow the non-technical in our homes work with it if needed. For instance if I’m on work travel and the Pi-hole goes down for whatever reason my wife wouldn’t be able to use pretty much anything online. I can remote in and fix it but that could be hours/a day or two later. Same then for the proxmox stack that everything runs on.

    Along the same lines, how are folks documenting for EOL? It may not be a happy thought but we are all going to go someday, so what is your plan and how have you ensured loved ones can access/save important data?

    • @BastingChemina@slrpnk.net
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      It’s not just for my home server but for EOL or other issues I used bitwarden emergency access options for passwords. Of anything happens to me my wife can request access to my vault and if I don’t deny it in a certain timeframe she will have full access to it.

      I did that after my brother in law got in an accident and fell into a coma. I’m very grateful he had all his password saved in chrome on his unlocked laptop because if not it would have made the period insanely more difficult for my sister.

      Simple things like paying the bills would I been insanely more difficult and stressful and you don’t need extra stress in this period.

  • @doodledup@lemmy.world
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    I refused to do any documentation for a long time because it made me feel stupid for not memorizing it. I learned it the hard way… Now I document everything possible with Git and Readmes.

  • @413j0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I just set up everything via ansible and comment everything religiously, I’ve gotten to the point where I have playbooks for my laptop and desktop so if I have do do a clean install I just have to run the playbook and everything is set up and installed to my liking

    It’s annoying to go to my playbook to make changes and rerun it every time I want to install or remove anything from my daily PCs, but it pays off when I migrate computers or for some reason have to do a clean install

    And for high level stuff and things not in ansible I keep a tiddlywiki since no matter how catastrophic the failure of my systems I can always find a way to access an HTML file for my own reference

  • @CapitalNumbers@lemm.ee
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    Here’s my approach to documentation. It’s about habits as much as it’s about actually writing anything down:

    1. Never setup anything important via naked terminal commands that you will forget you did

    2. Always wrap important commands in some kind of “setup-xyz.sh” script and then run that script to see if your install worked.

    3. If you need to make a change to your service, ensure you update your script and so it can be re-run without braking anything

    Get into the habit of this and you are documenting as you go

  • irmadlad
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    327 days ago

    I am the note taking king probably. I worked in the construction industry for 20 years. The rule was, ‘if you didn’t write it down, it didn’t happen.’ That has just carried over to every other aspect of my life including selfhosting. Whenever I sit down to my terminal to do anything, I open Notepad++ and a regular windows notepad session. The windows notepad session is a little script I came up with that opens windows notepad with 1000 empty lines. It’s one of the many quirks I have, but I hate having to hit the enter key to start a new line. I like to be able to click on a new line for a new line of thought and start typing.

    @echo off
    (for /l %%i in (1,1,1000) do echo.) > empty_lines.txt
    start notepad empty_lines.txt
    

    (Save as a bat link on desktop)

    Anyways, the Notepad ++ session is for after things get worked out, I make an official entry into the Notepad++. The windows notepad session is just a scratch pad or ‘thinking paper’ from which I transfer to the Notepad ++ doc. Convoluted, no? LOL You asked, and I just pulled back the curtain for you a bit. Careful what you ask for, could stain your brain.

    I try to document everything. I feel like, if I’m going to take the time to learn something, I might as well write it down. I take my Grok sessions and distill them down if I found the info relevant. I also do all of this because after my TBI which gave me a seizure condition as well as other mental/neuro issues, my memory is shit, even for someone of my age bracket. But I can stand up a server and secure it, just from my notes in a step by step manner conducive to my limited mental acuity. I’ve often wondered if anyone would be interested in my notes, like maybe some newcomer to selfhosting wouldn’t have to reinvent the wheel since I have a penchant for fucking things up.

  • @cecilkorik@lemmy.ca
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    I’ve moved to an “infrastructure as code” approach, not using any fancy tools in particular, primarily just bash shell scripts. Basically almost everything I setup or do gets documented via shell scripts, I write them as I go when I’m learning to install something new, and before I commit to something to new, I take extra care to make sure the scripts are idempotent so that when I want to do make any changes, all I need to do is add it to the appropriate script and re-run it.

    The idempotent part takes some effort sometimes, but is not actually as hard as it seems, particularly if you don’t mind that it sometimes spends some wasted time doing things that have already been done, and occasionally spits out some harmless error messages because something is already done, but I also try to minimize that when I can. The consequences of doing too much by re-running are rarely serious. Yeah sometimes the scripts can break, but as long as they fail properly (set -euo pipefail) it’s usually pretty obvious how to fix it and it won’t leave too much of a mess.

    Doing this has transformed my homelab from a mess of unknowable higgledy-piggledy spaghetti-services that was always teetering one small failure away from total collapse and frantic rebuilding, into something repeatable and reproducible that I can actually … wait for it … test. Just firing up a Linux ISO in a VM is all I need to test everything I’m doing in a perfect sandbox, and I can throw it away when I’m done with no regrets. Plus it makes rolling out new servers, and more importantly, decommissioning old ones, a breeze, you know exactly what’s on them and how it was set up, because it was all in your scripts. Combined with good data backups (which are also set up in the scripts) and restores (which I also test with scripts) it really takes the drama and stress out of migrations and even hardware failures.

    Yeah there are probably easier ways to accomplish what I’m doing using some of the technologies like terraform, ansible and nix/flake that people have mentioned, and I’ve dabbled with those, but for me, the shell script approach strikes a nice balance of not just documenting but also learning the process myself so that I understand enough of what it’s doing to effectively debug it when something goes wrong, and it works on almost everything and in most cases requires no installation or setup. Bash is everywhere. I even have an infrastructure-as-code setup for my Steam Deck to install stuff and get it set up the way I want.

    • @CapitalNumbers@lemm.ee
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      125 days ago

      i second this

      i haven’t gotten around to looking into something like terraform/ansible yet, and currently rely on a series of setup.sh scripts and docker-compose files

      i have a single master setup.sh at the root of my homelab which basically just outlines which scripts i need to run and in what order in order to get things back up and running from zero

      i only user my README.md for any non scriptable stuff (such as external services i rely on such as cloudflare/vpn providers, etc)

  • @tobz619@lemmy.world
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    227 days ago

    NixOS’s declarative configurations basically document themsleves: add some comments and you’re good to go and can back then up to wherever whenever