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Walking cartoonist Dave Cycler
THAT BIKE IS TAKING UP A PERFECTLY GOOD PARKING SPACE! /s
I have actually seen people screech this unironically in response to converting car spaces to bike parking
I mean yeah but also people do leave them littered everywhere
In China, they have a dedicated lane for parking bikes and motorcycles, as well as riding. The yellow bikes are 2USD/mo. By making bikes as cheap and convenient as possible, at the expense of what could be an entire carlane, they eliminate the demand for that car lane. There is a 2.50 fine if you park outside of the parking area, but youre never more than 10 feet from a parking zone.
That sounds far better than the American solution of leaving them in the sidewalk
You couldnt do that, youd block all the bikes, cars, and buses using that sidewalk.
In Seattle we throw those green scooters in a pile blocking the garage exit to the ICE facility.
They have their use cases.
Sure that’s the problem. Not the fact that inner cities are completely clogged up with cars and everybody and everything else has to squeeze into the tiny spaces left over.
Two things can be true. I live in a downtown area with plenty of open space for bike parking and kids will leave the rent bikes in the middle of wherever they want
I live in a major city and it isn’t a problem. There are plenty of racks and you cannot park(end your ride) in certain zones.
It is a very solvable problem compared to what is sacrificed to cars
Oh for sure. My deeper point is just that culture is a factor that never really comes up in these conversations and memes. So while yes, the pic is funny, and yes it’s getting at the heart of the issue. That doesn’t change the fact that some people just dont care and also doesn’t change the fact that the transition period away from car dependency is awkward for a lot of people
It gets the conversation started and it’s hopefully a point of inflection for some
What circumstances foster that culture? Are there just not sufficiently convenient parking places?
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Its just a bike. I do not care.
I care. I bike myself. I was walking downtown and some idiot left their bike leaning up against the tree on the sidewalk. Right next to outdoor seating to a small restaurant. Just completely blocking the choke point of the sidewalk. Walking with my kid in a stroller. I could either drop the stroller off the curb into traffic or move his bike to the other side and help everyone else actually walk.
I moved his bike. Which required actually picking it up as the bike wheel was locked. A 50lb electric bike. Not something I’d expect everyone with a stroller or especially a wheelchair would be capable of.
The problem is both. Don’t leave your shit blocking where others need to go.
Its especially annoying because it easily fit on the other side of the tree. I just can’t imagine why someone would leave it like that. But, yeah, some people are just never taught basic manners.
Having a kid now. I realize that there are so so many adults that just never got taught how to not be an asshole. They have a child’s brain.
can’t imagine why
We have utterly destrpyed the commons, and you wonder why nobody cares for the corporate owned shit they need to rent to get around? It is not a common asset. It is owned and profited from; it extracts from you. It has locking mechanisms. It is hostile even if it’s also useful. I don’t use the fucking things, but i woukd toss them in the street when i was done, if i did. Live by the hobbesian hell world, get left in fhe street by the hobbesian hell world.
You want people to care about the world, make it for them, make the space their friend, not an enemy or exploiter whose every surface oozes subtle hostility.
it was so dangerous! Either i set my stroller in the street to move it…
So you’re lashing out at a proximal cause instead of the larger structural issue, that most of the square footage of our cities is hostile and dangerous to unarmored humanity.
Dude. Be normal. I’m sharing a story about an annoyance of modern US infrastructure (which is obviously the fault of cars).
I’m confused by what conversation you’re trying to start here. I obviously acknowledge the issues of infrastructure that lead non cars to have to deal with the frustration of a “choke point” in our sidewalks.
I think you may be just interpreted my comment in the least charitable way anyone could. Because, God damn, I don’t think anything you criticized could actually be concluded from what I said.
Not to mention the three word quote you start with. Are you just here to try to disagree with someone that likely agrees with you?
Seriously. Maybe reread this in the AM mate.
be normal
Sorry, i still have some shreds of compassion left in me and multiple brain cells. Working on it.
not replying to the whole thing
Didnt have shit to say about everything you said. We likely do agree on a lot!
partial quotes
Just enough so you know what im referencing. Any reader would have the context. For brevity/cleanness and because vopy+pasting precisely is tedious in the ux i use. You seem to be interpreting me in a pretty uncharitable light too. Not every disagreement or correction is angry. Not all anger you observe is directed at you. Not all anger requires taking offense.
I have to assume a lot of people who complain about bicyclists are those who’s only experience is with shared infrastructure… E.g. no bike lane, share the road. Imo those shouldn’t exist when the speed limit is >10mph… And a lot of them at in 35-45mph areas… At that point the biker might as well be a spiced out psycho crab walking down the road.
I mean it sucks even more when someone is blocking part of the sidewalk when it’s so narrow
The thing is, you can look at the image a few seconds more and notice that there are plenty of cars obstructing the sidewalk more than the bike.
Yeah and that sucks too
clearly thats a sidedrive not a sidewalk
I feel like you’ve missed the point of the cartoon.
The cars are blocking the construction of better infrastructure for walking and cycling.
I didn’t miss it, just saying the complaint is still valid. There’s too little space already so blocking it sucks even harder
Bikes are to walking as cars are to bikes. You should all be walking, stupid bikers. (/s if it’s not obvious)
c/fuckbikes
I have this attitude when biking. In the US. At least I assume everyone has this attitude towards me. I’d rather be respectful to the people walking and piss off the cars. There are just too many times when taking the sidewalk on a bike makes the situation 10x safer for you.
But I’m not gonna be an asshole to people walking. If it’s a busy area. I walk the bike. If it’s an open area where I can see I’ll ride the bike and stop/walk if I see someone ahead.
It’s not often I have to. Usually I just take up the entire lane on the street and bother the cars. But I’ll take the sidewalk for a bit if it makes it significantly safer to do so.
Oh, I also turn off the electric assist on my electric bike when I’m on sidewalks with people. No one wants to hear that noise.
Yes. Cars are 100x worse. But people normalize that because they have to. I want people walking to see bikers as nice and respectful by comparison.
Even if we didn’t totally abolish cars, I’d really like to at least see parts of the city for “personal transport”. Any vehicle that carries a single person, with lanes only as wide as required to accommodate.
Share the road! Dang cyclists
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I got a ticket one time doing this with a motorcycle on a sidewalk that was like 10 feet wide with other motorcycles nearby doing the same thing because it was downtown and all the parking was full. I made a point to not block egress, but it had just recently become illegal to do, and I was unaware.
I mean, i get the sentiment, but wouldn’t the equivalent situation for cars be when they also leave the car? Like when dumbfuck in pickup parks in 3 lanes or similar?
wth is a hire bike? Dave should go back to school to get some learning
It’s a rental bike. Different areas call things different things.
