These days I have been playing the catalog of the PlayStation 1 and 2 games that marked me when I was young or at the time I couldn’t play: the trilogy of Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Rayman, Jak and Daxter, Sly Cooper, Ratchet and Clank, etc… And I realized that nowadays you practically don’t see characters like that in video games anymore.

Just as there was a time when all games were made for children, nowadays it seems that all games are made for teenagers and adults. Even those that don’t seem to be, such as Astrobot, appeal to the nostalgia of the more adult public.

What kind of heroes does my nephew have, for example? There’s Sonic, and it’s something in which we have a connection, but Sonic and other heroes that still remain current, like Mario or Link, are from an era that long predates him and perhaps for him they feel more like a thing of the past, similar to how I feel about Sailor Moon or Mazinger Z, which were heroes of my older siblings and parents respectively.

I don’t know of any heroes that are specifically intended to appeal to young people like my nephew, at least not in a “wholesome” way. Much of what he likes was not made with the child audience in mind, such as Five Nights At Freddy’s or Among Us; and what does, was made for more predatory motives, such as Poppy Playtime or Garten of Banban. The only thing I can think of is Minecraft and… I don’t know, it just doesn’t add up for me.

My nephew doesn’t have a Crash, a Spyro, a Sly to be nostalgic about when he gets to my age.

It’s a little… Bleak…

  • @EightBitBlood@lemmy.world
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    172 days ago

    I literally made an indie game to fill in this gap. It’s local coop and was designed for kids and parents to play together.

    It’s called:

    INK INSIDE (PC now, all consoles soon)

    Brain David Gilbert voices the lead: Stick the stick figure. The whole cast are children’s drawings come to life living in a kids notebook that’s getting corrupted by a slow leak dripping water into their world and warping them into “sog” monsters.

    It’s a game based on a lost pilot to a Nickelodeon show, and as such is both a cartoon and action RPG with a narrative that follows the first season of what you used to see on Saturday Morning.

    It’s pretty much what you’re looking for imo, but since we’re indie, marketing has not been treating us well 😅

    Reception from our intended younger audience has been glowing. Just harder to sell to kids as they don’t have money 😑

    • Dizzy Devil Ducky
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      123 hours ago

      I thought the name of the game sounded familiar, so I ended up looking at the Steam page and I was right when Stumpt did a video on it, pretty sure. Definitely gonna have to at least check out the demo because it looks interesting enough.

      Looked it up and they definitely did a video on it. Sk definitely gonna at least check out the demo. Hope sales pick up.

    • @Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      71 day ago

      This looks awesome!

      It checks a lot of boxes for me:

      • Indie
      • local co-op
      • playable demo
      • Brian David Gilbert?!

      I’ve never heard about this before, so I’m glad you shared. It looks like it’d be great to play with my nephew. Hope you can make the sequels!

      For the rest of you’s: https://www.inkinsidegame.com/

      • @EightBitBlood@lemmy.world
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        31 day ago

        Thank you so much! Very proud of what we’ve made, as we made it exactly for people like you! 🙂 Hope you enjoy and thanks for sharing the link!

    • NONEOP
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      42 days ago

      Sweet! Now i have something to gift my nephew and play together!

  • @Gerudo@lemm.ee
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    232 days ago

    I think a lot of it has to do with how we game. Older generation games we tended to play an actual character. Then gaming shifted to be immersive, where you, the player, are the main character.

    • NONEOP
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      82 days ago

      This.

      Maybe that’s why I personally get irritated by games that aren’t hardcore RPGs (like New Vegas) where the character is an empty canvas with no personality of its own. I’m more used to being told “You’re this hero. You need to go to this place and defeat this villain. You like chillidog and freedom. Have fun!”

  • @yesman@lemmy.world
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    Gaming is an grownup hobby for adults. Under 18yo are less than a quarter of gammers.

    This idea that games companies don’t understand their customers is a myth. They know who plays their games and more importantly who buys their games.

    When games companies act in ways that disappoint, cheat, or exploit their customers, it’s not because they goofed (usually). It’s because they’re business assholes and customer satisfaction is subordinate to plenty of sinister things that are opaque to the gaming public.

    • They know who plays their games and more importantly who buys their games.

      Is this not a bit of a “chicken and egg” argument though? Adults have pretty much always been the ones buying games, but they haven’t always been making them for adults. Even if kids are less than a quarter of all gamers, they’re still a sizeable chunk of the audience. Doesn’t really make sense to just ignore them.

    • 3DMVR
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      01 day ago

      yeah kids that do game play free to play games for the most part

  • @cattywampas@lemm.ee
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    212 days ago

    I think there are still plenty of protagonists aimed at kids. But since the industry has grown so much since we were kids, and because media is so fractured and niche these days, you and I just don’t play those games as adults.

  • @Jax@sh.itjust.works
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    There’s a character in Clair Obscur that could definitely be classified as a hero. Moreso than most, actually.

  • @Shiggles@sh.itjust.works
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    52 days ago

    Why are heroes so important? Role models are one thing, but hero worship is an incredibly problematic concept especially at a young age. The idea of an unquestionably good person is a myth that lends itself to authoritarianism, and that should die a slow agonizing death. It’s a little much to get deep into stuff like that for a kids game, but I’m certainly not sad to see “blindly good” characters go - it’s why Bluey is nice for how imperfect the parents are, even if they’re still an unrealistic ideal with how much time and energy the parents have.

    • NONEOP
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      52 days ago

      Ok, but my idea of “hero” is more based on the “role model” that you say. I totally agree with what you say that hero worship is one of the points that leads to the proliferation of fascism, it’s just that I get the impression that children now have no role models, at least not as we had back then, models for them, of their time. Not in video games at least, in series maybe there are, like in Bluey as you say.

      (I was thinking of mentioning Paw Patrol, but that’s Copaganda and it’s a nono for me).
    • NONEOP
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      32 days ago

      Steve is a blank canvas, even more devoid of autonomy than, say, Link. Even though Link never speaks or expresses ideas of his own, one can get an idea of what he’s like based on certain clues given in the games, and we know at the very least that he’s a classic hero who sacrifices himself for the common good.

      Steve is a pure avatar, if he has his own name just because even objects have one. Steve is everything the player wants him to be, hero, explorer, slaver, exploiter… and there will never be a conflict; contrary to Link, who cannot stop being a hero.

      My point is that, in my opinion, a hero must have his own character and autonomy, however minimal it may be, so that one can see in them an ideal to which to point to (Link’s bravery, Sonic’s love of freedom, etc.).

  • @Yermaw@lemm.ee
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    I agree it’s bleak, but it’s just different. They have youtubers to rally behind. They’ll be fine.

    • @Grimtuck@lemmy.world
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      112 days ago

      Fine?! Have you seen those YouTubers?!

      Bunch of greedy sociopaths trying to con people into buying drinks with manufactured scarcity. There’s something to look up to there.

    • NONEOP
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      72 days ago

      Dude, That’s what worries me the most. Some of those guys are weirdos and really awful people.