• @rational_lib@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    What annoys me is that “doing your own research” actually makes sense in a lot of contexts. Our modern politics driven news is 90% bullshit and you’re better off fact checking everything they say by looking at reliable sources and tracing the origin of dubious claims. But these people have ruined that by acting like “do your own research” means “blindly trust some guy with a podcast who tells you what you want to hear.”

    • Phoenixz
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      75 days ago

      I hate when people use the word “research” because most people think it’s reading a Facebook page.

      Real research requires nyears of studying to actually understand the subject before advancing the field. It requires sometimes year or decades of meticulously measuring and registering data, all while ensuring bias stays out of the data.

      To 99% of people it’s spending 5 minutes to find the right Facebook page that will confirm their preconceptions…its gross

  • @rtxn@lemmy.world
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    486 days ago

    If you want to be really pissed, read up on doctor disgraced former doctor, lifelong charlatan and grifter Andrew Wakefield. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield

    He abused autistic kids in a medical experiment that was meant to convince both the public and the scientific community that a specific combined vaccine (measles-mumps-rubella, a.k.a MMR) could trigger some kind of bowel disease that causes autism, all so he could peddle his own alternative that is three separate shots.

    • Lucien [he/him]
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      326 days ago

      And here’s the kicker: he did that because he was financially invested in the company producing the older, separate vaccines.

  • @Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world
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    346 days ago

    Even then, starving your own children isn’t going to cause their classmates and teachers and those people’s families to also go hungry. OP’s comparison is extremely forgiving to those dipshits.

  • @Supervisor194@lemmy.world
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    316 days ago

    “Do your research” is a dogwhistle and of course what it really means is “Google what you want to be true and read all the shit from morons like you who agree with you.”

    • Luffy
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      106 days ago

      They don’t stop eating. They will stop their kids from eating because they have been already vaccinated, so they can’t live without eating, but their children can

  • @BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world
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    85 days ago

    I was talking to a new friend who is a nurse yesterday, and she told me she worked in peds a bit last year during a measles outbreak in my city, during which one child died. She said she has never seen sicker children in her life, they were all unvaccinated, and that they all went home having lost so much ground. She says half the parents were just victims of disinformation but that many of them were super obnoxious.

    • @MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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      75 days ago

      Interestingly, I have some nurses in the family and the rate at which people who are educated in healthcare, are anti-vax, is too damned high.

      Which isn’t to imply its a lot of people, but any nonzero amount of people, working in healthcare, who buy into anti-vax propaganda, is too many. You’ve been formally taught about this stuff. Yet, you’re anti-vax because some person on Facebook/Twitter/whatever, fed you some bullshit about the “dangers”?? Wow. What the actual fuck.

      • @geekgrrl0@lemmy.ca
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        64 days ago

        My sister left a really great hospital job (radiology tech) due to the vaccine mandates. Some people are so smart and yet so dumb.

  • @Katana314@lemmy.world
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    75 days ago

    I mean, this level of Darwinism would be fine. What grates me is not recognizing the effect it has on others.

    Still seeking an analogy where not eating food somehow puts a neighbor or classmate at risk of starvation.

    • @Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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      95 days ago

      I stopped at a stop sign and somone almost rear-ended me. Had I driven through, I would have been safe. There is no reason to stop at stop signs. Other people can stop if they choose to, but the government can’t force me to risk a rear-ending in order to protect someone else. Jesus wouldn’t let me get T-boned in an intersection, I’m covered in his blood.

    • @MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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      35 days ago

      Herd immunity is pretty important.

      The first of the crazy parents who went anti-vax benefitted greatly from Herd immunity. Now enough of them are not vaccinating that the herd immunity is basically non-existent. So we get things like measles outbreaks.

      There are people who are medically incapable of getting vaccinated, like those with compromised immune systems (some might be in treatment for cancer)… And their best defense is if all of us, who can be immunized, are immunized.

      Cancer treatments are not the only immunocompromising thing that can happen and not all immunocompromised people have cancer specifically… For the record.

      Anyone who is anti-vax should be aware that they are actively and intentionally putting other people at risk and that should be strongly and thoroughly documented; so when they bring in a cold/flu/COVID/measles/whatever preventable disease to the school and someone else’s kid dies as a result the grieving family has the ability to sue them into poverty.

      They deserve worse, but legally, I can’t condone that… But if someone wanted to take a page from a particular person named Luigi, I would be hard pressed to find a good reason to pursue any charges against them.

    • ssillyssadass
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      35 days ago

      I feel like it’s very perpetrated by Americans, and Americans are very self-centered individualistic

    • bitwolf
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      15 days ago

      Because food is dangerous, we’ve taken steps to ban supermarkets which distribute food.

      Only a select few strictly regulated supermarkets will be allowed to distribute food.

      We know some communities may struggle with reduced or no access to food because of this decision. However we deem this imperative in order to have a strong and healthy country.

  • @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    136 days ago

    If you choose to give your kids deadly food, that’s your problem

    Also, we’re nominating a Director of HHS and a Surgeon General who will be adding corn, wheat, and rice to the Controlled Substances List.

  • Some of those foods include peanuts which are fine for most people but are deadly for others.

    Also, some American companies have created some lab grown food that seems revolutionary, but still lacks long term health testing.