• @azimir@lemmy.ml
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    16415 days ago

    “American Nazi Party Leader Condemns Foreign Government for Classifying Nazis as Nazis”

    • @Tiger666@lemmy.ca
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      -3414 days ago

      They are certainly not nazis. The Nazis were organized and not lazy. The Nazis actually believed their own bullshit. The Nazis had intelligence and cunning. Trump has none of these things. He is the dumbest laziest dictator the world has ever seen.

  • Aielman15
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    8515 days ago

    First France, now Germany. Seems Europe (at least some of us) has decided it won’t sit idly and let far-right extremists burn us to the ground.

    Although these are all provisional fixes. The true solution would be to get the people to ditch these idiots, and to do that, we need to fight disinformation and far-right propaganda on social media. Democracy can’t survive if the voting base is too ignorant to choose its leaders.

    • @torrentialgrain@lemm.ee
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      2114 days ago

      This is not a fix at all in Germany. There are no immediate repercussions of the Verfassungsschutz calling the AfD extremist. There might be more wind in the sails of the politicians that want a motion to ban them, but I’m definitely not holding my breath for it during a Merz administration.

      • @ijon_the_human@lemmy.world
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        1614 days ago

        I agree, it’s not a fix. However it’s also not just “calling them extremist”. It’s an official classification not just something haphazardly mentioned in a speech.

        The move, announced Friday by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (BfV), means that the AfD is no longer merely under suspicion. The agency says it now has definitive evidence that the party works against Germany’s democratic system.

        A 1,000-page internal report, according to German public broadcaster ARD, underpins the decision, citing violations of core constitutional principles such as human dignity and the rule of law.

        The new classification doesn’t ban the party, but it allows German authorities to intensify surveillance, including the use of undercover informants and monitoring communications, under judicial oversight.

        Politico

      • @drhodl@lemmy.world
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        614 days ago

        Germany should just ban Xitter. That’s where most of this nazi infection is coming from.

        • @taladar@sh.itjust.works
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          714 days ago

          No, most of it is coming from BILD and the other traditional media that poisons our public political discourse for decades.

    • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1214 days ago

      Democracy can’t survive if the voting base is too ignorant misinformed to choose its leaders.

      People not knowing enough IS bad for democracy, but the fact that they “know” so many objectively false and harmful things is MUCH worse.

    • @dust_accelerator@discuss.tchncs.de
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      Make political advertisement / political messaging illegal on entertainment platforms. There’s precedent for highly regulated TV advertisements, why is there such a broad exception for unregulated manipulative online advertising? Why is cigarette, religious, drug advertising forbidden but political lies and agendas allowed, endorsed even? Fines need to be 50% of monthly worldwide profit and increase by 5% for each month of noncompliance.

      This simple legislation would instantly solve a lot of current issues with what’s wrong and protect free, democratic nations.

      • @taladar@sh.itjust.works
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        314 days ago

        Fines need to be 50% of monthly worldwide profit and increase by 5% for each month of noncompliance.

        Profit is a bad metric here, they have decades of experience pretending they have no profits. Make it 10% of company value each month.

          • The Quuuuuill
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            1114 days ago

            And the algorithms are tuned to do it. Russia wants to run a disinformation campaign on Meta platforms and twitter? Well the owners of meta and twitter are both in favor of that type of disinformation being disseminated because it benefits them personally

      • @Tiger666@lemmy.ca
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        514 days ago

        Hypocrites the lot of them.

        He has said many times there should be term limits on MPs and low and behold he is parachuting into Alberta just like a good little hypocrite does.

        Imagine someone conservative running against him as an independent and winning.

        That would be priceless. Are there any anti fascists conservatives living in the Battle River area?

    • @futatorius@lemm.ee
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      114 days ago

      we need to fight disinformation and far-right propaganda on social media

      Find, then degrade, deny and destroy, the sources of the propaganda, and do the same to the conduits.

    • @barsoap@lemm.ee
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      114 days ago

      and to do that, we need to fight disinformation and far-right propaganda on social media.

      Nope. I mean it’s not wrong to do that, but it would be mistaken to see that as anything but a flanking measure: You can’t fight affect with cognition. We need real-world policy which alleviates people’s anxieties.

    • John Richard
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      Yeah you should ban their media, books, speech & lock them up. That’ll teach them about fascism alright.

      On a more serious note, all this decision by Germany does is make groups like AfD stronger.

      • @Helvetica@sh.itjust.works
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        1215 days ago

        “fight disinformation” =/= " ban their media, books, speech & lock them up"

        You really gave that strawman a good beating though.

      • Aielman15
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        1215 days ago

        You can’t fight fascism on the marketplace of ideas. The moment you sit at the table to talk, they spring up and punch you in the face.

        Limiting circulation of fake news, holding those who spread it accountable, and forcing social networks to moderate their platform if they want to operate in the EU, should be the priority.

      • @jol@discuss.tchncs.de
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        215 days ago

        You kinda have a point. If we fight fascism using fascist methods, we only empower it because suddenly they feel oppressed. But we do need to fight misinformation. But our polititians are so incredibly tech illiterate.

  • @Tiger666@lemmy.ca
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    5414 days ago

    Surprised fascist claims anti fascists are wrong and should stop fighting fascism. More news at 11.

  • @knekko@lemmy.world
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    3414 days ago

    I think the grand plan is to find somebody who messes up Europe from the inside, so that Americans don’t notice the difference too much.

  • @Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de
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    2814 days ago

    Yeah no wonder. The administration he’s part of is behaving unconstitutionally, so it’s only logical he would condemn the Office for the Protection of the Constitution in other countries for doing its job. Can’t have that if you want to erode the democratic basic order.

  • @Metz@lemmy.world
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    2414 days ago

    Marco Rubio can eat the peanuts out of my shit.

    With best regards from a hopefully soon fascist-free Germany.

  • The Quuuuuill
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    1915 days ago

    Yes Marco. Yeees. Dance for daddy 47. Daddy 47 won’t deport you to CECOT if you do what he says. Normalize fascism globally Marco for daddy 47 and grandaddy KGB potato. It won’t get you specifically killed. Not so long as you dance the dance and sing the song, Marco. Never mind that most of the people in CECOT danced the dance and sang the song. Their only crime was looking like you in daddy 47’s eyes. But you’re different Marco. You’re daddy 47’s favorite. Sure he’s backstabbed everyone who’s ever helped him almost immediately. He’s gone back on every deal he’s ever made. But you Marco. You’ll survive. Sure there’s no evidence to demonstrate you’ll be okay given the totality of everything.

  • @Grizzlyboy@lemm.ee
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    1614 days ago

    Who the fuck is Rubio and why should anyone care what he has to say about anything? It says he’s the us Secretary of State in the us. Meaning he’s about as unqualified to speak up about it as my pup.

    Fuck these dumb idiots who can’t understand the difference between politics and terrorism.

    • @Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
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      714 days ago

      He is the secretary of state, Acting Archivist for the National Archives, Interim leader of USAID and most recently National Security Advisor.

      • The Quuuuuill
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        1014 days ago

        Basically he’s 47 little bitch boy for any job he doesn’t care about enough to install one of his white supremacist stooges. Marco is his little dancing monkey, sent to do the jobs he doesn’t think are important.

        • @supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
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          314 days ago

          This conveys all of the important information on Micro Rubio’s wikipedia page in so much more elegant and concise fashion.

          Nicely done!

          Have you considered employment posing as a summarization AI in a mechanical turk scheme? I have heard that is a good way to almost earn a living these days and it is looking more and more attractive by the day.

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    I am sorry I can’t hear the tiny little fascist man talking can someone tell me what he is saying his voice is too quiet and squeaky.

    For real though, I just feel bad for Micro Rubio, when you make it all the way to the top and everyone still thinks you are a cowardly fascist loser it has to make it painfully obvious how worthless you are.