• @thejml@lemm.ee
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    16512 days ago

    Probably a good thing, the US sucked at it anyway. Ukraine was going to be forced to concede so much… Art of the Deal strikes again.

    • @disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
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      6012 days ago

      Nah, Trump got what he wanted, the minerals deal. Now he can keep sanctions on China for longer while we strip mine Ukraine for rare earth minerals.

      • @TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee
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        6612 days ago

        Lol, we aren’t going to be mining anything. Rare earth minerals aren’t rare because they’re only located in isolated places, they’re rare because they are only present in small amounts when mining other materials.

        The hard part is the refining of rare earth minerals because it requires large investments in refineries to separate the materials and consolidate them. Infrastructure that Ukraine or America haven’t invested in.

        The minerals deal is just something that trump can point to as a “win” when in reality it’s not worth anything. Just like everything this administration does, it’s nothing but smoke and mirrors.

        • Dzso
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          1811 days ago

          In that case, looks like Zelenskyy had the cards.

        • @frezik@midwest.social
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          1311 days ago

          Ukraine doesn’t even have significant rare earth deposits. Nothing worth mining.

          However, those aren’t the only thing in the deal. Bunch of other minerals are in there, and oil and natural gas.

        • @disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
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          11 days ago

          I’m aware, but they’re also unfortunately rare in the US, and we need batteries if we don’t maintain a good trade relationship with China.

          • @TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee
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            311 days ago

            America actually has plenty of rare earth deposits, it’s just not profitable to mine them and then build facilities to refine them.

      • @torrentialgrain@lemm.ee
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        1911 days ago

        Bro the US isn’t going to mine shit in an active war zone. The mineral deal might be beneficial if peace is reached but not before that.

        • @frezik@midwest.social
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          211 days ago

          Doesn’t really matter. Trump got a deal. In Donnie’s diseased mind, it doesn’t matter what it says, only that it exists.

          • @futatorius@lemm.ee
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            511 days ago

            It all makes sense when you realize he’s a trust-fund idiot cosplaying as a businessman.

      • @thejml@lemm.ee
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        1212 days ago

        It’s going to take years if not decades to setup the full supply chain off that deal, he’ll likely be dead by then and China will be laughing the whole time.

        • @empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          1512 days ago

          That depends on the deal actually being followed.

          Trump has zero intention of following through on any deal he makes, if he finds another option that is more beneficial to himself and himself alone, he will reneg on the deal in a microsecond.

  • @wwb4itcgas@lemm.ee
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    9112 days ago

    Ironically, that might be the most useful contribution to eventual peace in Ukraine the US has made for some time now.

    Thanks, I guess.

  • @kent_eh@lemmy.ca
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    5311 days ago

    Once again demonstrating how unreliable the American government has become.

    It will be a very long time before the international community trusts America.

  • @CircaV@lemmy.ca
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    3411 days ago

    Good, the US can fuck right off. Trump is a nincompoop as are his followers. No way they’d be capable of solving a geopolitical conflict.

  • @biofaust@lemmy.world
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    1911 days ago

    Question is: now that we got the big loud bully out of the house, can the EU and maybe someone else who is sensible, like Canada, enter the room and bring actual diplomatic value to this sharade?

    • jrs100000
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      2711 days ago

      Probably not. Russia’s motives dont stem from a communications failure. They stem from predatory imperialist intent, and they arnt scared of the EU or Canada.

    • @JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world
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      No

      The EU will continue funding Ukraine’s war, allowing thousands of people to die on both sides of the war. And they’ll slowly ease on Russian restrictions if they feel like they need it for economic growth.

      The EU could force Russia’s hand and end this war but it doesn’t seem like they want to

        • @JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world
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          211 days ago

          The EU needs to put actual restrictions on Russia, Russian oligarchs and Russian allies/goods, not just a not even fully opaque curtain that is easily circumvented like it is atm (even by EU members).

          They also need to properly support Ukraine’s military so that they can repel Russian troops back to Ukraine’s borders instead of just giving them enough ammo and guns that will allow them to continue this war of attrition. Maybe they could use all the resources that Germany sends to Israel for example.

          And then they need to do what was said above. Actually come to the table with Russia and negotiate the end of the war.

          But atm that isn’t possible because Russia is not being forced to. They made their ground and ofc aren’t keen on giving it back and Ukraine is also not willing to give part of the country to Russia (as they shouldn’t). And the EU politicians are happy to be profiting of this war and shift their economies to war economies in order to fill their pockets further.

          We haven’t done shit for climate change and it’s not even being discussed anymore. And it will only get worse.