• @gaja@lemm.ee
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      The other comments be like, “this lady is dumb because she killed herself and definitely just changed her mind and definitely wasn’t murdered, despite expressing that she will likely be murdered.”

      • Komodo Rodeo
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        4623 days ago

        Right? If I’m ever inclined to believe that someone(s) is going to murder me, and tell my family & friends about it, and that I’m not suicidal, it’s because I want people to look into it if I die. It’s stunning to read all of these comments saying that maybe she was sitting on the fence, or that a half-decade is a lot of time to change your mind. Like, how fucking powerful do your enemies have to be before people are at least willing to entertain the possibility that you were killed for globally humiliating multiple multi-millionaires and their friends?

        I swear to Christ, I think it’ll take a dead-man’s switch tied to a private investigator and/or hitman to get things moving after a death under suspicious circumstances… “I think someone’s going to kill me, if it happens, here’s $30K to ensure that something’s done about it. Don’t accept jerkoff diffusion from impotent wankers or fools. Make sure that dolts don’t say I just got sad and shot myself in the back of the head twice.”

        • @Zenith@lemm.ee
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          People say shit like “half decade” to make five years sound longer. I understand people can change in five years, often do not share their suicidal ideation but she was a bright woman who understood the weight of her position, if nothing else it’s shady and needs to be looked into just to confirm.

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            -722 days ago

            Nice one, so I guess that you’ve never said “half dozen” then, right? Because you wouldn’t want six eggs to sound like a bigger number, right?

              • Komodo Rodeo
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                -222 days ago

                People say shit like “half decade” to make five years sound longer.

                What the fuck do you expect me to say to someone who comments “People say shit like “half decade” to make five years sound longer”?

                • @Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml
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                  522 days ago

                  That expression is being deliberately used to make the time period sound longer. Do you not understand that people will use language in a certain way to make things sound better or worse?

    • fatalicus
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      The tweet was written in 2019.

      Since then there has been a global pandemic that affected a lot of people’s mental health, and she had had become estranged from her husband and children.

      I’m not saying that there is no chance someone did this, but there was reasons why this might be a legitimate suicide.

    • @unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
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      This is a stupid thing to write tho unless you update it regularly and verifiably. Anyone can fake it and things change, maybe someone wasnt suicidal but then became suicidal.

      In this case i wouldnt doubt it for a second if someone claimed she was murdered, but thats beside the point. If you want to make sure that you cant be “suicided” then you need people close to you that can act as witnesses to your mental well being right before you got killed.

      • @Dagnet@lemmy.world
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        7424 days ago

        She is literally trying to avoid having the people close to her getting targeted, it’s like right there in the post.

        • @unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
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          She wrote “do not let this go away”. That means she wanted to bring as much attention as possible to her killing. But also what she wrote is plain stupid. Her family will never be or feel safe no matter what they do.

          Even if you dont want to directly involve your family, there are better ways to make it hard for others to fake your suicide.

    • Twig
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      That Tweet is six years old isn’t it? I guess you can change your mind in that time.

      • Komodo Rodeo
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        Have your plans to not commit suicide been altered 180° in the last 6 years, or are you still opposed to the idea? See how that works, it’s not like picking your favourite flavour of chips or movie, is it?

        • @GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca
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          I can answer yes in both directions. It’s amazing the toll stress can have on your mental health, whether that stress be environmental factors or biochemical imbalances. In the right, or wrong, environment 6 years can completely change who you are.

          This isn’t to say she committed suicide, I don’t know her and barely know of her, but your opinion is verifiably incorrect, and more likely to be incorrect for someone who has suffered significant trauma followed up by years of emotional abuse.

        • @AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world
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          Two people close to me have gone from “normal” to suicidal and back again in the last 6 years, for different reasons and at different times. Thankfully they are both stable and enjoying their lives now.

          If you’ve not witnessed anything like that, count yourself lucky. I remember talking to people about suicide when I was younger and couldn’t understand how anyone could get to that place until I saw someone I know really well go through a complete mental breakdown.

          • @kelpie_returns@lemmy.world
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            It kind of blows my mind that suicide seemed so outlandish to you back then tbh. It’s always seemed like a reasonable and, in some unfortunate cases, necessary final escape plan to me. But maybe that’s a product of having not-so-great parents, depression, and growing up in sometimes middling/sometimes severe poverty?

            • @AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world
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              Yes it is a product of those things, if you’re thinking about it then please see someone and work out a path to better mental health.

              We only get one life, it would be a tragedy to waste it!

        • @tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          I have had a day where I was sure I wanted to die and years where I didn’t. It’s possible for it to change in an instant. I don’t know any details of her situation, but just pointing out that that can change from moment to moment.

        • @phx@lemmy.ca
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          223 days ago

          Mine, no, but I definitely know people who went from very happy with their lives to deep depression in a shorter period then that.

          That doesn’t necessarily equal suicidal tendencies in all cases but there’s certainly common ground been the two.

        • Twig
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          -123 days ago

          Jeez, I just suggested that it’s possible.

  • Kruh Master
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    17824 days ago

    She said she would never commit suicide. She was murdered.

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      Three weeks ago, Ms Giuffre posted on Instagram to say she had been seriously injured in a car accident, which her family later said she had not intended to make public. Local police later disputed the severity of the crash.

      This part makes me wonder. If I remember at the time of it, it was a kidney injury that without dialysis would have given about 4 days to live. She recently split up with her husband after 22 years. I’ll start by saying dialysis isn’t fun. The emotional rollercoaster she has been on would devastate anyone.

      That being said, all of this would not have happened if she hadn’t been trafficked. I maintain an opinion that traumatic crimes result in suicide, then the perpetrators are murderers.

      Regardless if she died by her own action or not, she was murdered.

      With that opinion stated. Yeah. Without a lot more information I’m sort of expecting the suicide to be self-intlicted gunshot wounds to the back of her head while her hands were tied.

  • @zephorah@lemm.ee
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    13224 days ago

    Whenever suicide is mentioned in conjunction with Epstein, the answer is it wasn’t suicide. Even so, it means there will be no justice.

    • @tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      If someone is shot and paralyzed, but dies years later from complications it is ruled as a murder in connection with the shooting. If someone is horrifically abused and commits suicide, should the suspects of the abuse have some culpability in the death?

      Whether suicide or murder, her blood is on Epstein and company’s hands.

    • @Carrolade@lemmy.world
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      So let me get this straight, you think some hitman posed, as a school bus driver of all things, to assassinate her, and that failing, she’s so important that someone else gets sent in to get her?

      Occam’s Razor is dead.

  • @BestBouclettes@lemmy.world
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    A high profile, vocal survivor of a human trafficking case involving the president of the United States and a UK royalty, offs herself weeks after being involved in a car crash that almost killed her. That’s almost Russian Windows levels of coincidence right there.

    • @Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      A made-up car crash as even her parents revealed later. Girl was obviously not in her right mind (and probably rightfully so, considering what she went through)

  • Wren
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    Wait… she fell out of a window? When was she in Russia?

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    I would have hoped that getting some measure of justice for herself, even if it was just exposing those monsters to the world, would have helped her cope, but i guess not. At least she made the Queen believe, so she died with her son knowing that his mother was aware of his sick perversions.

    I feel terrible for her children. I wish her love for them could have pushed the intrusive thoughts aside, but eventually the thoughts won. I suspect children are the only thing keeping many of us alive.