I’ve never had an office job and I’ve always wondered what it is a typical cubicle worker actually does in their day-to-day. When your boss assigns you a “project”, what kind of stuff might it entail? Is it usually putting together some kind of report or presentation? I hear it’s a lot of responding to emails and attending meetings, but emails and meetings about what, finances?

I know it’ll probably be largely dependent on what department you work in and that there are specific office jobs like data-entry where you’re inputting information into a computer system all day long, HR handles internal affairs, and managers are supposed to delegate tasks and ensure they’re being completed on time. But if your job is basically what we see in Office Space, what does that actually look like hour-by-hour?

  • @AngryishHumanoid@lemmy.world
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    That’s like asking what a construction worker does. They build stuff, but like… what? The answer is whatever their specialty is. You can be an officer worker and do many, many, different things just like you can be in construction and do many, many things.

    For some quick very general examples you could be in sales, or software development, or customer service, or data analysis, or graphic design, or so very many others.

  • @abbadon420@lemm.ee
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    I work in data refinement. I stare at numbers until I find some that feel scary. Than I put those in a bin.

  • @Trimatrix@lemmy.world
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    Engineer here. You’re salaried but treated like an hourly employee. You get paid to work 40 hours a week but get “told” that working less than 45-50 hours a week makes you a slacker. Your exempt which means you don’t get a mandatory 30 minute unpaid lunch or a paid 15 minute break every 4 hours. Vacation time is normally unlimited but requires manager approval so if you get the old “boomer” type that drank the corporate cool aid, good luck getting any more than 2 weeks worth approved regardless of years at company.

    Sorry I digress, My job starts at 8:00 but I slide in to the daily standup at around 8:10. No one notices or cares. Afterwards, I get a cup of coffee, catch up on vital correspondence and questions from overseas coworkers. It’s sometime between 8:30 and 9:45 That I realize the Bangalore Software team sent out an emergency meeting at 11PM last night for 5AM This morning. “Oh well” I think to myself and sip on my coffee catching up on what I missed. Turns out one of them forgot to plug in a machine. They crack me up.

    From 9:45 to 10:00, I have conditioned my body to take a shit. I time it for exactly 10 minutes. My second one is precisely times for between 4:00PM and 4:15PM. I figure those two times are freebies to my 9.5 hour forced work schedule. Upon returning, from my “break” I begin to actually work.

    I design things using CAD software cool stuff. I am content by 10:10AM I have my headphones on, I am doing what I actually went to school for. I begin to think this is entirely worth all the other stuff I put up with. I get in the zone and time flies.

    Its, 10:25AM. There was an emergency on the production floor. They tell me its a problem they have never seen before. They assure me they have taken all the proper diagnostic steps have been taken and I need to look at whats wrong to prevent a line stop.

    I think, “its go time” I follow the techs down to the line and start diagnosing the problem. In no time at all, I find that they never checked the test wiring despite that being like in the first 5 steps of diagnosing a problem. I head back to my desk. Its 2PM by now, I microwave my lunch and work through it. Distractions happen maybe I get an accumulated total of an hour or two of design work done before its 6PM and I head home.

    Yup…… You could tell me to switch jobs but every company I work for in my line of work is just like this.

  • @ApollosArrow@lemmy.world
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    Well, I generally come in at least fifteen minutes late. I use the side door, that way my boss can’t see me. Uh, and after that, I just sorta space out for about an hour. I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I’m working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too. I’d probably, say, in a given week, I probably do about fifteen minutes of real, actual work.

    The thing is, it’s not that I’m lazy. It’s just that I just don’t care. It’s a problem of motivation, all right? Now, if I work my ass off and the company ships a few extra units, I don’t see another dime. So where’s the motivation? And here’s another thing,I have eight different bosses right now!

    So that means when I make a mistake, I have eight different people coming by to tell me about it. That’s my real motivation - is not to be hassled. That and the fear of losing my job, but y’know, it will only make someone work hard enough not to get fired.

    Now they are trying to offer me some kind of stock option and equity sharing program? I have a meeting tomorrow where I am probably going to be laid off.

    • @Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Holy shit, it’s been forever since I’ve seen this and… that’s me now. When I don’t work from home, that’s exactly what I do. My office has a little room for privacy, so I’ll just go lay in there randomly for a while. I take 15-20 minute shits multiple times a day. I listen to podcasts all day, or watch videos. When I work from home, I’m usually in bed chilling for 7+ hours a day.

      I do between “the most work of all of my coworkers in a day” and “as much as everyone else combined” and it’s completely fucking bonkers. I haven’t had a day in months where I didn’t do the most stuff out of anyone.

      • @IronKrill@lemmy.ca
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        418 days ago

        What field?? Like what are you supposed to be doing instead of watching videos for 7 hours. It’s crazy to me that so much time can be wasted without a manager realising or caring…

        • @Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Oh it’s insane. I work for a nonprofit, doing basic database management. My manager is… interesting. It’s a small team. Two of my coworkers are good, they do about as much as I do. Two coworkers do nothing at all.

          Like legit, we can quantify the work we do. I’ll do 30-50 work per day, staying in bed for seven hours. The two bad coworkers will, even working in the office, do 8-12 work per day.

          Our manager has started to cover doing work for those two. Our manager does 20-30 work per day.

          It’s a fucking bonkers job. But on the weeks I’m at comes it’s AWESOME. Being in the office is shit, and the two bad coworkers make it worse. I have a group chat with the people who do good work and we lament about the bad workers. It’s kinda toxic, I guess. But at least I get to chill a lot and the pay isn’t bad.

    • @FermatsLastAccount@lemmy.world
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      219 days ago

      Decided to go back to school to go something more meaningful, but that was what my first job basically was. I was hybrid, though. So I was working from home pretty often too, and I lived 10 minutes from the office so I would come in late and leave early on those in person days too. Sometimes I’d spend an hour writing a script and pretend it took me like 2 weeks.

  • @Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Most office workers move things from point A to B in the physical, digital, or financial world. Electricity, toys, real estate, insurance contracts, missiles, you name it. The office worker is a link in a chain of information that stretches from the beginning of causality to the final effects of human existence.

    There’s a mine, somewhere in the world. In that mine is metal. A factory owner wants that metal. Office workers for that factory call or email the office for that mine, and ask for that metal. The two offices negotiate a deal.

    This usually involves calls or emails to management, accounting, sales, legal - all different office workers doing different things - that ultimately boil down to:

    1. agreeing to a price per unit of metal (+ applicable taxes) that can benefit both parties, and
    2. logistics of when and how to deliver or pickup that metal, and how much those logistics cost.

    From there, it’s pretty much the same deal. The factory isn’t making enough money. They want to sell a better product. Office workers for the factory contact other office workers at an engineering firm. Both parties make calls, send emails, design proof-of-concepts, and they negotiate a deal. Sometimes they logon to an hour-tracking software, so an office worker can bill the factory per hour another office worker spent working for that factory’s product.

    A major importer wants the product that the factory made with that engineer’s designs and that mine’s metal. Office workers make calls, send emails, check tariff and tax regulations, contact representatives at the port or border, schedule times and dates, and negotiate a deal.

    A major retailer wants the product that the importer purchased from the factory…

    A consumer buys a product and dies. Their family hires a lawyer. That lawyer has his office workers make calls, send emails, logon to government websites, and schedule hearings and submit documents to prove that the product killed the consumer.

    An insurance agency investigates the plaintiff that is suing the retailer. They google the person that died. They contact office workers that know about how people die or know about how products can kill, and they check the insurance company’s database for how often people die to that product, and they calculate the odds that the product will kill a person, and then insurance office workers renegotiate a contract with the retailer office workers for higher premiums.

    An office worker in the government works for the court. They receive the lawsuit documents, they make and cancel appointments, make phone calls and send emails to other office workers, lawyers, or plaintiffs, they send data from one lawyer to another, etc.

    The whole system builds and builds until you have office workers talking to office workers talking to office workers about the movement of imaginary assets that never actually move, or the buying and selling of personal data for targetting ads that everyone hates, or software engineers building cryptocurrencies designed to fail or call centers that exist only to convince you to pay them money, or tax filing software companies that only exist because they pay the government to make tax filing hard…

    And there, everywhere, in everything - you have the modern day office worker.

    TL;DR: Reading emails. Sending emails. Checking data. Making data. Moving data. Making phone calls. Signing contracts. Approving decisions. Buying, selling, loaning, stealing, hiring, firing, murdering, perjuring, harassing, gassing, lying, crying, building, destroying - all pixels on a screen and voices on a phone, text in an email and words in a voicemail, all the world’s wealth and all the world’s future moving piece by little intricate piece from one human to the next in an impossibly vast network of causality that nobody really understands or controls but nonetheless keeps rolling forward one dollar at a time.

    (Edit - oh, and don’t even get me started on websites, apps, and spreadsheets that they use to interface with the data. There are infinite monkeys at infinite computers making the most randomized bespoke solutions to every little business niche, and every office worker has to swap between 2-6 of them on the daily)

    • @IronKrill@lemmy.ca
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      718 days ago

      Best response here, as this actually paints a picture of what people are doing all day and why they may be doing it.

    • Lv_InSaNe_vL
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      making the most randomized bespoke solutions to every little business niche

      Hey that’s my cubicle job! Last week I made a program because one of the locations at my company wanted to be able to view tolls (were a trucking company) for their drivers only. So I threw that together.

      This week I’m making a program which will replace a spreadsheet to track tablets (drivers get one for electronic logs). It won’t do anything crazy but it will be color coded! (Color coding was the single most important feature they requested)

      But today I didn’t work on that because they wanted a little tool to convert various file types into TIFF files because they work the best with our management software.

      So yeah, lots of random little automations and tools for like 1 or 2 people to do their niche little responsibilities.

      • @Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        417 days ago

        You are seen! There are thousands of “you’s” out there building permanently-temporary fixes out of digital duct tape. Users think it’s black magic, IT thinks it’s a security risk, management thinks it replaces IT, and you know it just keeps things moving while everyone else talks about the big software overhaul that’s way overdue but always 6-36 months down the road.

        • Lv_InSaNe_vL
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          Haha I’m actually from an IT background! I started doing it because I was tired of paying like $1000/month for 7361618 little programs.

    • @Depress_Mode@lemmy.worldOP
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      Wow, what a thorough answer, thank you! The summation was almost poetic, in a beautiful and somewhat horrifying way. The whole system laid out like that almost seems a bit dark and dystopian in kind of an indescribable way. It sounds like a sentient, Lovecraftian rat’s-nest of wires running the whole world.

  • @CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world
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    2119 days ago

    I mostly played video games in between intense bursts of productivity to get work done.

    Yes, I was doing this before remote work was a thing. You just have to be slick. I once set up a “lab” of three PCs to “test some new software” in a back room and then played Birth of the Federation on one of them while the other two ran perf counter output, for 3 months straight. This was an act of desperation to keep my mind busy. They had laid almost everyone off in the company so I didn’t have much to do, but it started a tradition that carried me all the way to retirement!

  • @FanciestPants@lemmy.world
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    Be engineer, draw pictures with numbers next to it that mean that your picture is important. Give picture to someone who agrees that your picture is important and presses on your picture with a stamp. Then give your picture to people that don’t work at desks to make a thing that looks like your important picture.

  • @eezeebee@lemmy.ca
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    Getting emails faster than you can read and respond to them, and they are all urgent exceptions.

    Meetings that could have been emails, wasting your time while the real emails continue to stack up.

    Askng important questions (via email) and getting ignored, or only some of the questions addressed.

    Visits from the newest suit talking about how great their new ideas will be, just like the last one who said the same thing and was replaced after 6 months.

    It is a lot like the movie Office Space, except in current times instead of one job you’re doing the work of 2.5 people and making less than Peter did in 1999.

  • @Pronell@lemmy.world
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    Hour by hour, my job evolved from taking calls from clients who owed us money, to then answering questions from agents who weren’t as skilled at it as I was.

    In the process of being promoted, I was asked to join a daily meeting of over 100 people talking about the issues affecting our department.

    Once in a great while, something came up in that meeting that gave me the heads up to prevent chaos in our department and stress to members.

    There’s a whole shitload of cogs turning in modern corporations. There’s also a huge danger of people leaving and nobody understanding why the cogs are there.

  • @markovs_gun@lemmy.world
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    I’m a chemical engineer at a plastics company. When I’m in the office I’m looking at data and making decisions based on that, like whether to stop or increase production rates, whether to shut something down for maintenance, or finding what piece of equipment is broken and causing a problem. I also design improvements to the process like finding better ways to run the machinery, new equipment that gets us more capacity, or new ways to control the equipment. I would say about 80% of my time is in the office and 20% is in the manufacturing area.

    • @Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      I was until a few years ago, a machine operator in plastic extrusion. All but one of our engineers were useless. Did they do work? Sure. Was it productive to the line? Occasionally…

      We paid $20,000 for a new mil thickness tester, made by young engineers at the local university.

      They held a whole “class” to show us how it worked, presented not by the ones who built it, but by our engineers.

      It failed during presentation. So we all learned how to measure manually instead. It never worked. They ended up installing the old one back, which hardly worked.

      Then for the next year it sat broken, and unless the old thickness tester was in a good mood, we had to do it manually, which was so utterly time consuming and difficult.

      While I think engineers are important- so many just fuck around, least where I worked.

      • @Hacksaw@lemmy.ca
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        The idea of letting young engineers at a university design production equipment is WILD to me. Universities make PROTOTYPES. The gap between prototype and reliable production equipment is so big you could drive a bus through it.

        A good production engineer is worth their weight in gold but when you have shitty ones you’re better off letting the workers run the ship. At least they know what’s happening and where the hangups are. You’ll know a good engineer because they’re down talking to the lead hands on the shop floor because they want to understand what’s actually happening and run ideas through the shop before they fuck with things.

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    I am a project manager for an automotive part maker.

    My job is emails, tickets and meetings on the computer all day every day.

    My job is to make sure the engineers work on the correct tasks at the right time. I am responsible for the planning and delivering on time (delivery is a part with mechanical, electronic and software working together correctly). I am responsible to keep the project within the budget. I decide on priorities, what the team needs to be working on first, second and third. I am responsible for making the team work according to the quality process, which means they must follow to correct steps, design rules, reviews and create the appropriate documentation.

    I can tell you, sitting in front of the screen all day, is harmful to health (in a different way than a physical job is). For example, almost everyone I work with is wearing glasses, my own vision has degraded a lot.

    • @garbagebagel@lemmy.world
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      Bless project managers. The ones I’ve seen in IT seem generally better off because programmers and engineers seem to be better at getting their work done, but outside of IT, it’s like herding cats trying to get people to do their shit. I do not understand how any of you can do it full time.

      I’ve done my fair share of project coordination and have had people tell me I should go into project management officially but quite frankly I’d rather chew glass. Y’all are saints.

  • @w3dd1e@lemm.ee
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    I just check email all day. Like that’s 80% of my job. My entire job could be done from anywhere. I don’t do as single thing that isn’t in my laptop. But I still sit at a stupid cubicle.

  • @Thisiswritteningerman@midwest.social
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    As a manufacturing engineer, I’m mostly in an office when I’m not actively dicking about on the production floor or talking with my production operators. Most of my desk time is

    1. Answering questions from people who aren’t me about my manufacturing lines: specifications, output, inputs, could I do experiment XYZ if they sent me info. Subject Matter Expert is the term the company uses. Debatable if it’s accurate, but it’s the expectation.
    2. Answering stupid questions for people who could absolutely open an app or walk and look in person but would rather be handed the info.
    3. Collaboration with other employees: be it Quality as to what hoops I need to jump through to do something, providing process data relevant to a manufacturing defect they were alerted to, pestering other engineers to see if they’ve done anything like what I’m up to because it’s a good shortcut, or trying to work out how to use a system I’m unfamiliar with.
    4. Tracking output metrics: Management loves the same numbers tracked 5 different ways and having them reported to them constantly.
    5. Meeting prep: either making a slideshow, crunching data to present, updating a project tracker (see above), or reading all the relevant emails associated with the meeting because earlier I super just skimmed them for anything I was required to do urgently. 7: Tinkering on things at my desk: familiarizing myself with new equipment/parts, testing an idea out of scraps/easily sourced parts before I ask our Tool and Die team to draw up a design for something sturdier/more expensive, or rooting through boxes for things I inherited relevant to that manufacturing line when I was assigned to it.
    6. Messaging folks on teams: lunch plans, thoughts on recent events, or even just sending memes, gifs, ASCII middle fingers to people I like. General screwing around.
    • @Baylahoo@sh.itjust.works
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      218 days ago

      This sounds very familiar to what I do, but I also make the hoops you have to jump through because I am the aforementioned Quality that you speak of.

      • @Thisiswritteningerman@midwest.social
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        We’re making medical product, and are 13485 and 9001 regulated. It’s concerning the number of times I’ve had to fight with supervisors because I deemed it important to loop Quality in on my changes and made a task take longer and they didn’t agree with the choice.

        • @Baylahoo@sh.itjust.works
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          Lol do we work for the same company? It’s crazy seeing people claim they care about patient safety and then turn around and attempt to skip every safeguard that was put in place for the sake of patient safety.

          • @Thisiswritteningerman@midwest.social
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            117 days ago

            Is your site currently losing about 1/3 of it’s area to an outside company who bought a division and the apparently completely sane plan is to seperate off that area and duplicate prexisting structures (HR, Warehouse, Quality) for the new company?

            But yeah Patient safety comes first. As long as the lines don’t go down. Or too slow. Or don’t get stopped from speeding up at the planned rate.

            For a business where the FDA WILL show up unannounced and audit, we sure do love to push back against quality.

            • @Baylahoo@sh.itjust.works
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              Oof we aren’t doing any of that so at least you’re at a different location (my company has multiple sites), but yeah FDA shutting you down until their list of grievances are met is going to be way worse for delivery commitments and market share.

  • @bigboismith@lemmy.world
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    I work as a programmer, we get a feature request from a customer that passes through a lot of stages (billing, scheduling, architecture, etc). When it gets to me it’s a simple “it’s now x, it should be y, this is done when a, b and c”. I then go through and change or add code until everything is achieved, it’s then tested and out it goes. Rinse and repeat.