Look, the only reason people start getting conservative, is when needs and wants start getting harder to acquire. Want to change that? then have affordable living make a come back. There’s a reason why a decade ago people were more liberal, because shit was more affordable.
The problem is that something is missing and it’s being filled by angry reactionaries and right wing grifters who prey on the particular insecurities of young men, specifically insecurities around masculine values.
What’s missing is a foundational framework for understanding the male experience as distinct yet coequal to feminist theory. A framework that seeks to promote a balanced, respectful dialogue by articulating unique structures, values, and challenges faced by men, in order to offer a lens through which male identity, struggle, and transformation can be understood on their own terms, while upholding - acknowledging - the progress and insights of feminism.
These men feel like they don’t have purpose or identity. They need a framework, but unfortunately efforts to define and build such a framework are often hijacked by extremists that just hate women and minorities. Like we see now.
How can right wing extremists hijack a “foundational framework” when you offer nothing. For them to hijack the conversation you would first have to offer substance that then is taken but you don’t offer anything. That is why they vote against you. You are for the betterment of one sex and that doesn’t include them. Why would they vote with you? If the situation were reversed you wouldn’t vote with them either.
Shitty parenting and the education system being eroded year by year. This is the generation that the billionaires wanted. Poor, stupid and complicit.
Yeah, make them idiots and then tell them they’re the most important idiots and shouldn’t feel less than. It’s a Republican politician’s wet dream to have a population of slobbering assholes who feel like they deserve more than everyone else and are being denied it
I must live in a bubble. Both of my (university age) kids and their friends are vocally offended by Trump and Musk, and they think Polierve is a bad joke.
My oldest games online with a few Americans and they are also very anyi-trump. (“They wouldn’t be my friends if they supported him”)
This gives me hope for the future
Talked to a few of my friend’s kids. They all think Musk is a genius.
I see Andrew Tate victims in all of them.
Ugh, what a terrible future we have.
Social democracy let everyone down (by being neither social or democratic, thanks to politicians thinking about their rich friends) and now people are surprised that a generation started to believe that an authoritarian leader would be better.
How did social democracy let everyone down?
Are you kidding? All crown corporations are getting privatized, they’re intentionally destroying social services in order to justify giving more space to the private sector, they only built housing long enough to comfortably house boomers and X and then they gave up…
No it’s not social democracy at this point, it was still sold as being it way longer than it actually was though and that’s how people became sour to it. If you convince people that social democracy is them not being able to afford to live, they’ll get hooked to the first alternative they find.
The reason I asked is because I feel that you are blaming social democracy and I think you are painting with too broad a brush. Capital should serve the state, the people, not the other way around. Social democracy is in part about strong regulations on capital. We need to stand by that and support it. Throwing it away cedes power to capital.
I’m not blaming social democracy, I’m describing how people feel because they’ve kept being told that’s what they were getting even when they weren’t until they started to believe that social democracy was the problem to begin with.
We won’t get social democracy with the choices offered to us either so what then?
Because right wing voters continued to exist to let it.
gestures broadly
Gen x parents have dropped the ball so hard it’s not even funny.
So much alcoholism. And 2008 happening in their prime earning years caused several gen X’ers I know to never recover financially.
I feel seen here LOL
No kidding!
Well the kids are leaning right because of propaganda and mind control. Plain and simple. Instagram and Twitter actively push ragebait content designed to radicalise impressionable kids.
Where are their fucking parents? My generation bitches endlessly about boomers, then…raises another generation of them?
Nice.
These kids have got awful fucking parents
Both JP and PP couldn’t fight their way out of a wet paper bag and they’re waxing poetic about masculinity?
PP’s so masculine that when one of the racist supporters said he’d rape his wife, this powerhouse just pulled down his pants, bent over and took it.
Anything these twats says is absolute nonsense.
You who could fight, though?
Didn’t he also win that fight?
Yup. Decisively
I still don’t understand how they are doing it.
At no point in history could you go to the woman dealership and buy a woman. You could maybe pay for a little time with a woman, or buy a slave at a slave auction. You could negotiate with a woman’s father some exchange for his daughter. But that exchange usually had to have something of value, and it also meant you lived beyond the age of 30.
Like I get that younger people are dumb, and being a man, I can attest that men are particularly dumb, but how fucking whacked are these men thinking they will somehow benefit from this?
The strict dress code for women came about because debt collectors would show up to farms in the Fertile Crescent to demand payment on a loan, and decide to take their daughters as payment. (Drunkenly-remembered source: Graeber, “Debt: The First 5,000 Years.”)
This is accurate.
Source: I once bought a wife from a man in the Fertile Crescent in exchange for a shipment of low quality copper.
I’m just gonna say it
Humans have a weird system for propagating the species.
I vote for counter propaganda feeding them that right leaning people are all child predators or will become one. Make them demonized the same way they demonize the left.
A lot of comments in here have real “I’d beat my kids” vibes, and that’s kind of shocking and scary.
No no no, it’s not the manosphere. Try parents
