I blame Elon Musk, who has done incredible damage not only to his own brand, but to the idea of EVs.

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  • @fubarx@lemmy.world
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    101 month ago

    You can only go so far with overpriced SUVs. Put out products across all price-points and use-cases and you’ll see interest go up. Especially if gas prices spike.

  • @faythofdragons@slrpnk.net
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    91 month ago

    I will never be able to afford an EV. The last used car I bought cost $2k, and the one before that was $500. Used EVs are ten times that.

  • @skozzii@lemmy.ca
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    81 month ago

    Give me a 20k(CAD) EV that I can run around town in with 400km of range or so and I’ll be happy as a Clam. Instead they want 45k for the cheapest EVs, no thanks.

  • @Coreidan@lemmy.world
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    01 month ago

    Jokes on you. I never had interest in EV.

    Make charging accessible (it’s not) and maybe things will change. Until then fuck off.

  • @hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net
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    -41 month ago

    EVs were always a way to save the auto Industry, not a way to solve the climate crisis. Add them to the list of greenwashing grifts (carbon footprint, plastic recycling, hydrogen fuel cell cars, etc) and move on to the real solution: bike infrastructure and mass transit, with cars as an absolute last resort until they can be eliminated.

    EVs solve one of the numerous problems with cars, and make some of the others much worse. People should have seen EVs as a grift the whole time, it just took the biggest grifter to blow his cover to start making it obvious.

      • @hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net
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        01 month ago

        Not wanting something to be true doesn’t make it false. Oh where have I heard people reject inconvenient truth before?

        • @blarth@thelemmy.club
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          11 month ago

          The gist is that renewable energy can fill the gap in a more centralized manner than gas does. As the grid modernizes into solar, wind, and nuclear power backed by battery plants, driving an EV will become increasingly much less impactful to the environment than driving a gas car around.

          I suspect your mind is made up, though.

          • @hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net
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            11 month ago

            Ok, what do cars travel on? What lithium do you use to make all the batteries? How do you make the all the steel you need for those wind farms and the power lines you need to get the energy from the farms? How do you store it?

            I’m not going to go in to all the problems, but I don’t think you’ve every questioned this story.

            • @blarth@thelemmy.club
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              11 month ago

              The grid is going to expand capacity and modernize whether EVs take off or not. Part of that modernization is storage of renewable energy using large battery plants. Those batteries will be primarily sodium based in the future.

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_energy_storage_system

              The materials used in making EVs are not a huge factor; I think that is a disingenuous argument. Gas vehicles require rare earth metals to build as well. Oil refineries, the distribution of gasoline, gas stations…the whole ICE car infrastructure has plenty of its own environmental impacts. There’s a whole area of the southern United States called “Cancer Alley”, where people living nearby experience a much higher rate of cancer cases than normal. It’s primarily due to all the refineries.

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancer_Alley

              There are environmental impacts to everything humans do. I’m not saying that EVs completely negate that impact, but they will reduce it significantly and lead to healthier environments for humans and animals alike.

                • @blarth@thelemmy.club
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                  11 month ago

                  🙄

                  I take it you don’t live in America. That’s fine, but unfortunately, mass transit isn’ta thing here except for densely populated cities. Cars will be on roads for the foreseeable future here.