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cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/28204065
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The Free Software projects in question: Tor, Let’s Encrypt, and F-Droid
I did not knew that Tor was getting funded by the american state. Thats giving me some spooky vibes.
It was invented by the US Navy.
Well color me stupid color me gone.
… Except not using it would be less secure, so I’m not sure I’m following…
Don’t confuse TOR with security, you can get exposed to use the Onion without an additional encrytion layer or VPN. TOR cannot encrypt the traffic between an exit relay and the destination server.
Sure, like any security it operates in layers
Totally disagree that Tor does not address security. The loophole you mention is indeed well known, but again it’s an exploit like anything
And like any security thing, you stack a few layers to get the real world security
The TOR network is certainly pretty secure, but it’s always advisible to use it in the Onion not without an additional layer, at least with a good VPN. Anyway I think that the future is in a descentralized web (I2P, Hyphanet, Snowflake, Shadowsocks and similar), the normal Internet is to heavy controlled by big companies and govs.
More exactly by Defense and secret services
One theory is that Tor was opened to the public by the United States Naval Research Laboratory only to create a crowd of users for their agents to hide in. You need a large enough anonymity set for these sorts of technologies to work.
F me
Well, at least the one he used for thruth is safe (mastodon IIRC?)
Elections have consequences. I am no longer on speaking terms w/ trump voters.
I’m no longer on speaking terms with any voters
I’m no longer on speaking terms
No.
the enemy is both weak and strong
Wait you guys were getting paid to work on open source?
Well it looks lime most of us are going to have to step up our donations foe the next few years
You will never approach the amount they receive from government funding. That is the point.
We’re going to have to try or potentially lose the project
Let me spell it out for you. Trump has removed our cyber defenses and now he’s defunding FOSS projects like Tor and Let’s Encrypt!…
Now Trump wouldn’t know a FOSS project from a hole in the ground but do you know who does? What world leader who has an entire cyber attack force on his payroll and wants to remove any barriers in finding dissidents who are probably using Tor to coordinate and hide from them?
Do the math. If the government funding of these projects is allowed to be removed it’s gonna be a whole new ballgame on the internet and the only ones to reap the benefits are the dictators.
the guy is literally a political front for techbros, it’s not like he would do something else.
Those mf build their empires on the back of open source.
Tech bros are only interested in getting the results from open source. They want the free software from their slaves, they aren’t interested in paying anything.
Tech companies, for a while, added a bit to open source as it was in their own self interest, but they still shut out everything that wasn’t them, they still make the internet in the horrible stonewalled garden that it is today. No account? Half the internet isn’t accessible to you anymore
Fuck all the big tech and social media companies
Tech bros are only interested in getting the results from open source
That’s why we need the GNU AGPLv3
Delta Chat was one of the FOSS projects affected: https://chaos.social/@delta/114211300446944585
This is terrible news, anyone know of alternatives to let’s encrypt?
they have more sponsors and won’t go broke because of this
Make America great again
Trump needs that money for his big boy parade.
This is it… This is the last straw!!! I was ok with the destruction of free trade, I was ok with the genocide funding, I was ok with the bastardisation of the administrative branch, and I was absolutely okay with the racism!!! But this, THIS??? ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE!!! As a MAGA supporter, I cannot stand for this any longer! You should be dismantling the minorities, not my website!!!
/s
The solution to this is simple. A change to the MIT license to bar .gov projects to use the open source projects.
Why would making government more proprietary help?
These are FOSS projects, not open source. They’d no longer be FOSS and that would be bad. Freedom 0 is important.
Its possible to add free for all except US govt and that does not stop it from being free for the rest of the world.
That stops it from being Free, which is freedom 0. From GNU.org:
A program is free software if the program’s users have the four essential freedoms:
- The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose (freedom 0).
- The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this.
- The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help others (freedom 2).
- The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others (freedom 3). By doing this you can give the whole community a chance to benefit from your changes. Access to the source code is a precondition for this.
A program is free software if it gives users adequately all of these freedoms. Otherwise, it is nonfree. While we can distinguish various nonfree distribution schemes in terms of how far they fall short of being free, we consider them all equally unethical.
What you’re talking about is changing Free software to be non-Free. No thanks.
Well, tbh. If its my last time being president, I would also burn everything to show how the country sucks an is irrepairable.
