Is there some sort of secret? No matter what sensitivity my mouse is set to I seem to get stuck when turning. On a controller I can turn completely in a circle, but not with a mouse unless i’m missing something. I’m willing to accept that I might be an idiot. But seriously how to people do it? It just feels so unatural. Sorry if this is a dumb question, because I think it’s a dumb question too.

  • @Zahille7@lemmy.world
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    172 months ago

    There’s no real secret other than to just play games and get used to it. FPS may or may not be the best choice for this. You could also play other games like strategy or city builders instead.

    My sensitivity is so if I drag my mouse straight to either side, I’ll do about 7 or 8 full spins by the time I get to the end of my mat.

      • @Zahille7@lemmy.world
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        12 months ago

        I don’t like to have to do that swing move that streamers and other hardcore gamers use. I like to use as little arm movement as possible

        • @unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
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          22 months ago

          Its only an issue if you play like 8+ hours every day. For small movements most people use their wrist and that fucks your joints if you do it enough. That is one of the reasons for why pro players do it.

  • Bogusmcfakester
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    82 months ago

    Turn off mouse acceleration in windows, it’s called enhance pointer accuracy or something stupid. Set your mouse DPI to 400 or 800 in its software and get a decent sized mouse pad, Adjust your in game sensitivity to the point a natural arc of your arm does a full 180. After that it’s all practice

  • @Peasley@lemmy.world
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    This is how M+KB natives feel on controller.

    You will get used to it if you keep playing, but it might never feel natural unless you use it exclusively for a while.

    I’m a trackball + keyboard user so mouse + kb and controller both feel sort of almost right but somehow wrong to me

    Also some genres lend themselves better to one or the other. I prefer controller for platformers and fighters, but prefer TB + KB for almost everything else

    • lemmyng
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      32 months ago

      Trackball gang! There’s dozens of us. Dozens!

    • @SolOrion@sh.itjust.works
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      22 months ago

      Also some genres lend themselves better to one or the other. I prefer controller for platformers and fighters, but prefer TB + KB for almost everything else

      Yeah, I agree. I use a controller for platformers, fighting games and racing games. Also sometimes action RPGs- I’ve played Dark Souls with both input methods.

      My only absolutely hard line is using a controller for any kind of shooter. I just can’t, and trying is a very frustrating experience.

  • @sheepy@lemm.ee
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    62 months ago

    There are 3 way you can be better at aiming with a mouse:

    Disable acceleration (enhanced pointer precision)

    Lower your sensitivity

    Use a lighter mouse

    Past that, it’s practice, practice and more practice. If you only recently moved over to M+KB, you haven’t developed the muscle memory. Start with games that just require you to click on things, like Civ games or Stardew Valley, and games that don’t require rapid movements, like Portal.

  • @RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
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    52 months ago

    Play a less demanding single player game to get used to the mouse. I’m not sure how it handles mouse and keyboard, but I’m thinking something like Ratchet and Clank.

    • @daggermoon@lemmy.worldOP
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      12 months ago

      I’m actually trying an indie horror game called DreadOut: Keepers of the Dark because my controller won’t work for some reason. I have been reccommended Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart before. Maybe it’s a sign to play the game.

      • @el_bhm@lemm.ee
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        Playing a horror might not be the best to start with.

        Edit: Third person view in some games might be really awkward with mouse and keyboard. Especially older games can be clunky af.

  • @ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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    52 months ago

    Practice/getting used to it

    Also since you are learning try low sensitivity + moving your arm instead of high sensitivity + wrist movements

  • @Malix@sopuli.xyz
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    42 months ago

    No matter what sensitivity my mouse is set to I seem to get stuck when turning. On a controller I can turn completely in a circle, but not with a mouse unless i’m missing something.

    are you using running in circles as a benchmark? as a one continuous loop that is not going to happen with a mouse unless you have infinite desk and arm lengh. Generally mouse users do circles in segments: turn a bit, move mouse back to center and repeat as nescessary.

    If you’ve mostly used controlles, yea, m+kb is going to feel unnatural. Same applies in reverse too. Different worlds - it can take quite some time to get familiar with the other.

  • @TheDorkfromYork@lemm.ee
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    So with mice, you have a center position you return to after every move. From that position, ideally you should be able to turn your character between 270°- 180° degrees with a single swipe.

    You’ll want to use a mouse with an at least 1000 hz polling rate. They can be found online for less than $30. There are websites to test polling rates.

    I recommend a DPI of 800. 1200± DPI will often make your sensitivity way to high, even if you lower the in game sensitivity. 400 DPI has more hitches.

    Turn off mouse acceleration in windows.

    Make sure the sensor in the mouse and the mouse pad is clean.

    Lighting round: light weight mice are preferred. 8000hz is better that 1000hz polling, but not by much and uses a lot of CPU usage and requires correct USB support. Don’t aim at the enemy, aim where they are going to be. Warming up a bit does help your aim. You don’t need to spend a lot of money to get the best gear or to have fun.

    Useful mouse comparisons. https://www.rtings.com/

    There is a mouse pad compare website, but I can’t find it.

  • Angry_Autist (he/him)
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    21 month ago

    Everything they said but first start by playing some solitare first, it was included in early windows to teach mouse skills

  • @Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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    22 months ago

    Try to keep the mouse centered in your mousing area. The aiming motions for the mouse are shorter, snappier throws rather than the long and slow arcs of an analog stick.

    So move the mouse to your aimpoint, then pick up and recenter. I find that a full “flick” for me should go about 360 degrees. You can also check for mouse acceleration settings, this increases the rotation of your view based on how fast you move the mouse. Good for games where action is coming in from all sides, but it can cause some problems with precision and consistency.

  • @Artyom@lemm.ee
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    21 month ago
    1. Disable mouse acceleration in the OS and in the game
    2. Enable raw input
    3. Decide on a grip for your mouse, your options are claw, palm, or tip. Which type of mouse you have will kind of dictate that choice for you at some level
    4. Download CS GO and an aim practice map
    5. Adjust the sensitivity until you start hitting shots semi-regularly. You should be able to do at least a 360 on a single mouse pad, some people prefer a higher sensitivity. You’ll have to decide between using more wrist or more elbow.
    6. Memorize the DPI and in-game sensitivity you used, use it for mouse-sensitivity.com and try playing a very different game from CSGO with those settings.

    Odds are the best settings for CSGO will be less sensitive than the best settings for open world RPGs, ultimately it’s your call and depends on the games you play, but once you have a setting, stick to it for a few different games, then adjust as needed.

  • @Tattorack@lemmy.world
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    12 months ago

    Step 1: Sit in front of your computer.

    Step 2: Start using the mouse and keyboard attached to your computer.

    CONGRATULATIONS! You are now well on your way to getting used to using a mouse and keyboard.

  • @Tolstoy@lemmy.world
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    12 months ago

    A lot of comments missing this part: you have to lift your mouse to relocate it back to center. A low sensitivity mouse results in so called “rowing”.
    There are a lot of different preferred styles, as an example: eSports tends to higher DPI (dots per ich) since every millisecond counts but the precision falls behind which can be trained.

    After all I would recommend trying a mainstream shooter game like Counter-Strike and leave the settings vanilla.
    Start a match or training or what else and pick yourself 3-4 points of the environment like a corner of a wall, a bench and so on.
    Now aim at one point, close your eyes and try to move your cross hair onto another point, open your eyes and you will notice that you are either too far beyond the aimed point or didn’t reach it. This offset can be adjusted inside the most in-game setting by decreasing or increasing the mouse sensitivity.
    If you always have to crank up or down your sensitivity in every game to the same direction you probably should change your mouse DPI. Most mice come with software where you can adjust this. Also when playing on windows disable mouse acceleration.

    • @SolOrion@sh.itjust.works
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      22 months ago

      There are a lot of different preferred styles, as an example: eSports tends to higher DPI (dots per ich) since every millisecond counts but the precision falls behind which can be trained.

      This is accurate, yeah. Sometimes pros use 400 DPI, some use 1000 DPI. There’s probably at least a few madlads using 2000+ dpi or some shit.

      Personally, I use 1600. I don’t have a particular reason for that- I might actually try turning it down- it’s just what feels comfortable.