I have the RIGHT to freedom of speech and expression and I will not waive it for Trump or anyone else. Without it, there is no United States.

Fuck Donald Trump. Fuck Elon Musk. Fuck the Republicans. Fuck the oligarchy. Fuck authoritarianism. Fuck this fear, and fuck advance compliance.

I serve no fucking king.

The fact that you are even worried about this says so much.

Love, A european

You know what they called Germans during WWII who just went along with the nazis because why fight, you’ll just lose?

Nazis.

First of all, they won’t arrest everyone. Even extreme governments on the tail end of their horrible leadership don’t arrest everyone. They need some citizens to be there working jobs. Rather, they would aim to arrest enough people to scare everyone else and then some other people randomly just for the hell of it.

But if you think staying under the radar is going to make your life better, maybe you should read some history books. Who do you think is coming to save you? Who do you think is coming to make your community better? When do you think they’re going to arrive? Outside forces will not fix contemporary US political problems. It doesn’t work that way, not when everyone has armies and nuclear weapons.

Sadly, quite possibly things could get far worse before they get better, so if you want to plan for some unfortunate eventualities, that might be a reasonable decision. But don’t think for a second you can run from them. And even if you could, what kind of human would that make you? What kind of person do you want to be?

It’s more about setting up a system that rewards your neighbour for snitching on you. If that system is practical online, only time will tell. It worked well irl for other fascists.

Please watch this video about dictatorships and what to look out for.

I don’t see them coming for all of us. It’s just not practical to arrest everyone who complains.

It all comes down to other characteristics:

• are you someone influential or high profile they can make an example of, to promote fear?
• do you have any connection to another country, no matter how tenuous, where they can use this as an excuse to deport?
• are you part of another demographic bias they want to persecute, such as lgbt, where they can use this as an excuse to legally persecute?

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Extremely unlikely. Not for another 20 years or so, worst case scenario, and by then they probably won’t care about now.

First off, there’s way too many people who criticize the government to arrest everyone, secondly it’s completely unnecessary. Complaining about the government doesn’t really do anything other than allowing people to vent their frustrations and feel more content. It’s the same way Trump obviously isn’t going to “end elections forever” like people say, virtually every country in the world has elections, regardless of how actually democratic they are, because they’re a nice little ritual that lets you feel free and in control. It would be like saying that Trump is going to knock down the Statue of Liberty - he doesn’t have to.

Now, there are reasons to establish more secure lines of communication, like if you’re involved in actual organizing or if you’re either helping people do illegal things or planning to help people do things that could potentially become illegal - for example, shipping Plan B or trans hormones to people in red states. Laws in some red states about “pushing transgenderism on minors” could theoretically be interpreted so broadly that if you post information or supportive messages on a public forum and a minor in a red state happens to see it, they could try to come after you for it - but that would probably be found unconstitutional.

Using secure lines of communication for routine, everyday stuff helps keep those lines secure by generating more chaff they’d have to sort through, as well as familiarizing yourself with it and getting more people on board. However, you shouldn’t scatter to the wind preemptively and self-censor, beyond just not fed-posting.

All? Unlikely. But some? A lot harder to say. You’re asking for an opinion-based prediction at this point. I think they’ll probably eventually try to get the most outspoken critics, but I also think that’s a good time to not go silent. You get organized.

The entire country would collapse if they did that. There would nothing to be president of.

Not to mention Jon Stewart, Jon Oliver, and the many other celebrities that shit on Trump. Plus all of MSNBC, CNN, and the other “left” news companies. I don’t imagine they have resources to do all that.

It’s completely unrealistic in the short term, more so in the long term. This would require arresting millions of people - there simply isn’t enough jail space. They would have to execute people on sight, and that’s also not realistic because low level soldiers would refuse (there’s a reason the nazis needed to build a system instead of just executing jews on sight). Obviously if this were attempted it would result in extremely violent resistence which would destroy any economic, political, or other incentives for such an action.

Instead we can see what happened in Russia for a more realistic example - there was a slow elimination of dissent. Even today there are some Russians who vocally oppose Putin and don’t get arrested so long as they stay small enough. And that’s in a place where the society never had a culture of freedom to begin with, so here it will probably be much harder and obviously MAGA is much dumber than the Russians too. But regardless that’s why it’s very important to be vocal now and oppose any silencing of dissent, like the removal of pro-Palestine activists here on green cards or even the pardoning of pro-Trump people, as this combined with harsh punishments for others is effectively silencing of speech. It may not affect you now, but if they keep at it for a decade or two it’ll get to you eventually.

I’m not going to travel to the US just in case they triangulate my ID. Haven’t said anything terribly bad about USA but still, why risk it.

Well, if I know my lore, the fediverse, Lemmy included, was created by self avowed communists.

And if the Luigi shenanigans, that is to say the censorship brought to bear on any discussion of the man or his alleged crime, have shown us anything; it’s that the powers that be very much fear a class war. Besides wich commies have long been a favorite windmill to tilt at.

I think it’s safe to assume anything posted on here gets logged and analyzed.

That having been said, eat the rich, free Palestine, and healthcare for all!!

I hate to be all doom and gloom but if the government decided tomorrow that disagreeing with trump was a crime then it’s probably already too late for you.

The amount of information about people online is pretty shocking and no amount of cleaning up after yourself could save you at this point.

On the other hand, it probably won’t devolve that fast so you’re probably ok?

Give it 4 years when we have martial law and elections are suspended because we’re in “wartime” or some kinda shit and the opposite democratic leader is arrested