The American side deliberately orchestrated the confrontation during President Volodymyr Zelensky’s visit to the White House, Friedrich Merz, the head of Germany’s Christian Democratic Union (CDU) and the likely chancellor, said on March 3.

“It was not a spontaneous reaction to interventions by Zelensky, but obviously a manufactured escalation in this meeting in the Oval Office,” Merz said at a press conference in Hamburg.

The visit was expected to mark the signing of a long-debated agreement between Ukraine and the U.S. on jointly developing Ukraine’s mineral resources.

MBFC

  • snooggums
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    It was blatantly obvious that it was planned, and good to see people calling it out.

    • @Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world
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      It was my very first thought too. Well, second after what a complete twat JD Vance was. But it just seemed so oddly paced. Like I’ve never seen a conversation go like that it was so strange. It felt really contrived. Course it could be chalked up to insane immaturity too so idk.

      I mean Trump’s answer to what if Russia breaks the ceasefire was

      What if the bomb drops on your head right now? OK, what if they broke it? I don’t know, they broke it with Biden because Biden, they didn’t respect him. They didn’t respect Obama. They respect me."

      So essentially his answer to what happens if they break the ceasefire was… they won’t break it? But no, zelensky is the world’s biggest asshole for wanting to know about securities.

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        Vance going on about how the goal is a ceasefire to end the war, Zelensky relying that ceasefires haven’t been followed by Russia, and the Trump.and Vance going off on ‘disrepect’ was just wild. Like reality tv scripted argument level wild. Saturday Night Live parodied the meeting and the parody was toned down compared to the actual meeting!

  • @gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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    I’m not the biggest fan of Merz by any means, but credit where it’s due - it’s fantastic that he specifically and unambiguously called this out on the geopolitical stage.

    • @torrentialgrain@lemm.ee
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      His stance on Ukraine and the European Union is the silver lining for me with the CDU win tbh. Things might actually improve on these topics over Olaf Scholz.

      • @gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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        Right? I have been consistently underwhelmed at how… well, flaccid Scholz has been on the European leadership front. Dude comes off like he wants everything signed in triplicate before he’s willing to consider appointing a discussion board to evaluate possibility of thinking about making a decision.

    • @Pringles@lemm.ee
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      Especially because he has always been a staunch atlanticist with a ton of connections in the US. That and the fact this comes from Germany, the most pro-US country, barring the UK, in Europe, gives his words extra gravitas.

  • @cultsuperstar@lemmy.world
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    This was absolutely an ambush. Trump and Vance had a script and reactions ready to go, thinking they were going to get under Zelensky’s skin, justifying Vance’s angry reaction. But Zelensky stayed calm and reserved and Vance still has his angry outburst. Trump and Vance embarrassed the country, looking like toddlers screaming when they don’t get their way.

    And every Republican who backs this is vile scum, but that’s to be expected from the GOP. Trump and Vance taking America to new lows every day and the GOP just doubling down on it.

    • @NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
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      Lets be honest here, Trump and Vance didn’t orchestrate anything.

      Putin did.

      He wanted the weapons stopped, and he gave them a script.

      Now the weapons have stopped as of a couple hours ago.

    • @Zombiepirate@lemmy.world
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      Zelenski has the patience of a demigod for not slapping the shit out of Vance.

      He handled the no-win situation as best as he could; I hope it raises Europe’s will to back Ukraine since it was obvious how he was ambushed by a supposed ally.

    • @lepinkainen@lemmy.world
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      The dude literally invited Russian state media and said “this will be great TV”.

      I’m not a conspiracy theorist but…

    • @octopus_ink@slrpnk.net
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      32 months ago

      how low do we have to go before everyone wakes up and sees this orange shitstain for what he is?

      I don’t think anyone capable of seeing it doesn’t already see it. We have to make it through these four years as a nation and somehow move forward despite them all.

      If congress somehow gets Trump removed via impeachment or similar means (I know the chances are near zero) I fully expect magas to be shooting people in the streets a day later, or a much more violent Jan 6 style event.

  • @BassTurd@lemmy.world
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    It was obviously performative when Trump said, “you don’t get to tell us what we’re going to feel” when Zelensky said that the US will feel the effect of the war.

    It’s was after JD already escalated and Trump had to grab something to be a critical about, and that was the arbitrary point he decided to cling onto. He had to because JD upped the ante and Trump HAD to do something to keep up

    • @AoxoMoxoA@lemmy.world
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      92 months ago

      👶 I’m going to be a bad ass today ! My pee pee feels funny just thinking about it. I’m so excited

  • @njm1314@lemmy.world
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    152 months ago

    Yeah I think that was pretty obvious. I mean they were clearly looking for an excuse to attack him. They chose the most inane metaphor they could have to take offense at. Just waiting for their opportunity.

  • @StopTouchingYourPhone@lemmy.world
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    142 months ago

    His faithful MAGAts are probably waiting for him to tell other elected world leaders that they’re fired. Just because it’ll be funny to hear him say his catchphrase in his weird little voice. And that’s as seriously as they’ll take it until the lights go out and it’s blighted poultry rations for dinner again.

    Rotten state of things.

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    Calculated escalation or not, this public spat weakens Ukraine’s global standing against Russia. Well-supported and credible analysis of the situation but lacks conclusive proof for Merz’s claim.

    😺😺😺🐱