Summary
After a tense Oval Office encounter with Donald Trump and JD Vance, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy received a warm UK welcome, including an official audience with King Charles at Sandringham.
British Prime Minister Keir Starmer convened a defence summit with European and NATO allies to reaffirm solidarity with Ukraine, discuss unlocking frozen Russian assets, and counter the rift caused by Trump’s accusations of Zelenskyy’s ingratitude.
European leaders fear the spat endangers Western unity and peace efforts and are vowing no negotiations on Ukraine without Ukrainian involvement.
Events from yesterday are sad, not just for Ukraine or even Europe, but they will also hurt US long term.
US right now is on the path of losing its dominance. All the soft power US is losing, China is stepping in. Russia also believes it can once again become a superpower hopefully EU get’s its security seriously and won’t let them.
That’s why they compromised trump.
Really tired of people saying “this is so bad for the US!”
Yea…no shit. That’s literally the whole point of all these insane actions.
It’s gone. The USA is a superpower only because of its allegiances. In the past week it’s been demonstrated that the US no longer wishes to be a part of that arrangement.
Super powers in general should not exist.
The BRICS partnership (Of which China is a key player) encompasses almost 50% of the world’s population, and their Belt and Road initiative is a soft power wet dream.
The world has actually already become multipolar, but most Western media won’t make that clear because they are still stuck in the old Colonial mindset of Captialist-Democracy = 100% civilized / Not-a-Capitalist-Democracy = 100% backwards.
Trump is just switching gears from the slow decline harder towards the Capitalist-Not-a-Democracy segment BRICS’s most namesakes inhabit. He just doesn’t bother to mask the racketeering into something like the Belt and Road
The US has already lost its dominance. Anything you think you see to that end atm is general inertia. People are mentally prone to incredible inertia in behaviors.
The signs of power vacuum between first trump term and second trump term are there. China. Israel. Russia. And now the world is already rallying together against the new world bully.
Because that is who Trump is. A bully with a giant war chest. No one likes a bully. Incidentally, on the psych side, they usually have daddy issues and/or have been abused at home.
The brunt of it ends when Trump dies in his sleep from his medical ailments (he doesn’t look good). And then we see the real agenda of the people around him in this admin, in full force. Likely less erratic with the war chest though, and more focused on destroying any and all remnants of power and will to live in the working class.
Russia can be a superpower if they didn’t rob the nations resources instead of investing in it and its people.
Aka Russia will never be a superpower. Russia history motto is “and somehow, it got worse”
US right now is on the path of losing its dominance.
That may present an opportunity to develop international democracy, to replace the violent, hegemonic rule of any one nation.
they will also hurt US long term
You win the internet understatement of the year.
All the soft power US is losing, China is stepping in. Russia also believes it can once again become a superpower.
Crazy how you wouldn’t think it was the EU and NATO countries.
Since, you know, the entire point of him going to see trump was to show them that they needed to fill the void.
Didn’t you notice all the “thank you” messages and how this visit was already scheduled…
I don’t think Zelenskyy was humiliated, it was the US. He stood up for himself well. Trolling and bullying an ally isn’t a good look.
I hardly think I’m in some piddling minority in thinking that my country is a fucking disgrace and Zelensky is a righteous man worthy of respect.
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Try millions…
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Oh I am game. Raspberries are my absolute favorite.
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As a Ukrainian living in the US, I appreciate people like you.
The motivation now is for Europe to finance the entire war… to ensure Zelensky doesn’t need to go back to the US.
Such disgrace. I’ve heard of “ugly Americans”, but this is ridiculous.
I mean we had to get off the US’ teats at some point, it’s been 80 years. A pity that it had to happen like this, but we have to look forward and turn Europe into the beacon of democratic ideals that the US refuses to be anymore. It will be a hard and rocky road for sure, but we can come out the other side stronger and better in every way.
Us practically made eu dependant on them for military protection
With the new privacy nightmare policy, we can improve democracy right? … right?
The US wanted an obedient Europe but now they no longer want pay for it … Guess obedience time is over.
Yea, it’s a shame that the American people elected this clown to represent them. I’m really heartbroken they/we didn’t choose better.
It was also heavily rigged just like 2020, republicans will never investigate that
Conspiracy bullshit is ruining this country. Didn’t contribute.
You think so?
Trump has implied it himself a handful of times, and the fact is Elon Musk
was paying peoplestarted a sweepstakes for people in Pennsylvania to win $1millioneach, to vote for trump.That’s absurd and it’s this kind of misinformation that has led our country to be the joke it is today. Do better.
Chill bro, I fixed it. The truth wasn’t that far off
“Sorry our kid turned out to be such a douche.”
It’s interesting that conservative circles are lauding Trump for removing the US from wars in “matters that don’t concern us”. Their take, not mine.
And yet. All of this feels like a seismic shift prefacing going to war.
Even the first term I always had the sense Trump wanted to play with war toys. Akin to him acting like a little boy playing with toy truck when behind the wheel of a construction vehicle. Now he’s more erratic than ever before, and has the people around him willing to do his bidding.
And this is not an administration that would hesitate to draft people.
a seismic shit
Despite the tone of this thread, this made me chuckle. Thank you.
Nice. I almost don’t want to edit.
Remember the stupid parade that he was so desperate to have and never got?
Yea, this whole “matters that don’t concern us” take is really scary to me. It scares me that people don’t want to learn from history and realize that it eventually will.
There will always be people who feel if it doesn’t touch their family circle, their immediate living situation, then it’s unimportant.
This take happens more in the living paycheck to paycheck set which may as much as 60% of Americans at present.
I do get that to a point. But to express this view so unapologetically is a little painful to see.
him acting like a little boy playing with toy truck when behind the wheel of a construction vehicle
You missed this one then? https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidmack/vroom-vroom-vroom
Apparently I also missed this one https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemcneal/trump-truck
I hope the UK & EU get all of those tasty mineral rights and Trump get left holding nothing but his limp mushroom dick.
Taking advantage of someone being attacked so you can extort their mineral rights is a low thing to do. No need to act like vultures.
These headlines man… “After TRUMP white house meltdown”
Wdym, should have been Trump and Vance right!!
The headline incorrectly suggests zelensky had a meltdown in white house, as it’s worded.
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This Jerking Dick Vanker is a piece of shit, can’t even make a simple deal. He only had 1 job to do.
King Charles steps into diplomacy; is this soft power or a risky political gamble?
🐱🐱🐱🐱
The royals meeting heads of state happens regularly no?
Sure, but this meeting carries symbolic weight given the ongoing conflict and alliances.
😺😺
They could play coy?
*after Trump’s Whitehouse meltdown