And then everyone who can’t grow or rob their calories would be fucked.
Basic necessities, like groceries, could be bought, I call out utilities because IME in most places it takes at least 2 months of missed payments before they can shut off utilities
What do you think happens when a power company goes bankrupt?
It gets taken over by the local government, like it should be
Is there any precedent for you to think that would happen?
It’s important to separate desires from expectations.
Cute idea
Cool and then you and your family and loved ones starve, don’t get the medical attention and maintenance they need, same with meds, emergency services, etc.
Don’t forgot you’re one of the fucking morons living inside and depending on the society you’re gleefully imagining collapse. So many innocents will be killed just from the fall of all of these services and whatnot.
What is “wage garnishment” for 200
That requires a court order, could you imagine the shit show the court system would be for companies everywhere to get court ordered wage garnishment against even 50/60% of the population lol shit would grind to a halt
They would bring back debtor’s prisons, and enjoy their new source of slave labor.
No they wouldn’t
The second it became clear this was a larger theme they would sell the debt at a premium to the debt collectors
If it somehow got to the point of hurting a utility or big company government would ride in to the rescueI’m all for an organized, mass bill payment “strike” and some businesses would be effected, though not really any very large companies, who would benefit the most from having their competitors go out of business (and forced to sell or merge their assets for a fraction of their value) than we would by saving $100-200 per month, which we would spend, corporations would raise prices, and all of that money just flows back to the banks anyway.
Now tenant organizing and rent strikes, that’s where you can actually fuck shit up and make demands many times. But like your gas company doesn’t give I shit, you just won’t have heat, fuck you.
It would be nice if this was true but it still based on the illusion of a free market
Reminds me of those chain text messages about kids skipping school. “They can’t give us all detentention!” I don’t remember it ever working though.
Yes, they absolutely could give you all detention.
Besides, most kids actually understand the point of school.
That’s true and part of me would love to see that, but some utilities (such as water and electric) going under would probably be a bad thing if there wasn’t a plan to swoop in and bring them under public control right away. Otherwise, things would get bad really quick in a lot of places if power and water stopped being available for everyone for an extended time. Things like hospitals, grocery stores, repair shops, etc. would all be working at greatly reduced capacity and capability. Barring a full-on revolution where the people could seize these utilities for public ownership and operate it themselves, I don’t see that happening because the government would be likely to simply bail out a lot of the companies, or they’d be bought up and probably end up being consolidated by an even fewer number of people.
It would take years. This is a dumb take. Now not spending our money at big corporations and giving a little extra to the small places WILL help over time. And everyone can survive.
accelerationists love this trick
They’d also stop providing whatever service they provide, which is why nobody will actually follow through on this.
Jesus Christ now any revolution is accelerationism, huh? And this is the response on Lemmy of all places. We really are doomed.
Not taking a side on this. Instead asking a question and hoping for someone to explain
Those who do not support the idea of this kind of strike, do you support the idea of a general strike? A collection work-stoppage? If so, what is the fundamental difference? I have my opinions, but I really want to know yours.
Also, I fucking love mid-sentence exclamation points. It makes me happy every time I see it.
They’ll both accomplish the same thing, except my meme does it without risk to the individual losing their job since in the US there is no protection from termination unless you’re already in a union and not working due to an official union action
Well, there are no consequence free actions in any kind of scenario such as this. Lose your job for a general strike. Lose your utilities for a bill paying strike. Lose your job and you can’t pay your utilities. Lose your utilities and you can’t shower and will lose your job. Either way you’re fucked. The only solution is to make sure you have enough people willing to join to make it impossible, or as close to impossible as possible, to ignore your demands.
Lose your utilities for a bill paying strike.
Most places in the US have to wait months before they can disconnect utilities, a lot of them they cant even disconnect heat utilities at all during the winter
In the US there are more protections around utilities than there are around an individual’s job, go figure lol
There are pros and cons either way, but the way I see it, based on the better protections surrounding utilities, it’s better to go this route.
Also, this is a meme on c/shitpost, not an ironed out plan ready to ship out lol
I think the important part of any kind of mass action is the mass part. We need to get millions, not thousands, behind it. And we could. There are enough people sympathetic to the cause, we just aren’t as organized as we should be. And that’s by design of the state and capital
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