Hang the captain and first mate, take the oil, sink the ship. This is how we’ve always dealt with pirates.
Scrap the ship, don’t sink it. We have more than enough waste on the bottom of the various oceans and seas as is.
You can responsibly strip and scuttle large vessels to help facilitate reef development
Fair enough, but that’s still a form of scrapping as opposed to outright immediate sinking of the vessel. Far too often vessles are sunk, mostly intact, and that is causing countless amounts of pollution in our waterways.
You are really bad at pirate
But you have heard of me.
A Pirate can be eco-conscious without breaking Pirate ‘code’.
Does hitting a Russian warship with it at full speed count as scrapping?
They use end of life ships for this shenanigans anyway. They are essentially already scrap.
This is normal for russian navy as even their flagships are in a state a civilized nation would consider “scrap”.
Moscow didn’t even know it was being sunk since its systems were in such disrepair.
Aim it at the port of St Petersburg and put it on full power. Let them deal with it
The captain is Georgian and the crew is Georgian and Indian according to the article, why saint Petersburg?
Because its literally Russian black fleet ship
An extremely public trial would be more effective.
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You definitely could. A hanging lasts less than a day. A trial could stay in the Overton window for much longer.
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The point in question here is how public the event would be, not how effective. So in that regard, yes, Trump’s and even Epstien’s trials were quite public, regardless of how effective they were at rendering justice.
You’re attacking a straw man, which is how effective the judicial system was. As for that attack, you’re absolutely right. Those three instances had laughable results and dumbfounding failures of justice.
Sink the boat so it interrupts shipping into one of their waterways. Do it with every sabotage boat from now on.
Remember these are not pirates they are crew being told what to do with families back in Mother Russia and a great many pressures on them. Better a trial with all the details spewing forth and Russia blaming birdstrike and threatening armageddon over a cable.
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they are crew being told what to do
Being told to commit crimes. So, like pirates?
Pirates are not state sponsored they are self motivated and opportunist, the people responsible here are likely reluctant state operatives, possibly not fully aware of the consequences.
Pirates are not state sponsored they are self motivated and opportunist, the people responsible here are likely reluctant state operatives, possibly not fully aware of the consequences.
Thats one far fetched speculation after another.
You have no idea if they are state sponsored or not, and no data to prove it either way. Their actions follow a pattern of state sponsored destruction, but somehow you deny it. Seems you are just making stuff up here.
You are being deliberately obtuse and using other accounts to mark yourself up so no more food for you.
Good point, Vlad.
Strap em to an anchor
In some civilized parts of the world, we’ve renounced death penalty some time ago and only the far-right wants it back.
“They go low, we go high!”
We are going to high-road the shit out of them.
And how do we deal with saboteurs and enablers of sanctions evasion?
The head of the investigation, Risto Lohi of the National Bureau of Investigation, told Reuters the vessel was threatening to cut a second power cable, Estlink1, and the BalticConnector gas pipe between Finland and Estonia at the time it was seized.
“Lohi” is Finnish for “salmon”. That’s right. Inspector Salmon is in charge of this investigation. Thankyou, Finland.
This Lovely Bones sequel is weird
Oh my gosh people Finland isn’t even real. They’re is no landmass. FIN-LAND. It’s all fish! They’re even rubbing our faces in it with these stupid names.
I wonder if NATO is going to try and enforce a blockade where any ship travelling through the area of cables must be escorted.
I hope so. And bill the “ghost fleet” for any costs.
Lock them up.
Steal some of the oil. Replace it at correct stoichiometric ratio with ammonium nitrate or some other powerful oxidiser. Attach a detonator and tracking device to the ship. Don’t tell the crew. Let the crew go free. When the ship reaches its destination, detonate. Halifax explosion, round two.
Fuck you, whoever would buy Russian oil.
I should maybe add that I don’t think this is actually a good idea. I can just see that it’s scientifically possible, and I enjoy constructing scenarios like this.
But to those who are riding Putin’s dick, just know that these are the things the West could do, but chooses not to. And the fuck you to all buyers of Russian oil still stands. I don’t care how poor they are.
Oh yeah, it’s just fun to imagine murdering a bunch of civilians, who have absolutely no say in whose oil just sailed into their harbour. Disgusting.
Would you rather buy Saudi oil? American oil? Yeah, like that’s any better.
“…these are the things the West could do, but chooses not to.” Yeah, the West does whatever TF it’s done in Afghanistan, Iraq, West Asia, whatever France has done in Africa. “fuck you to all buyers of Russian oil” You mean like the US and EU? What do u think happens to the Russian oil once it’s refined to actual useful oil?
The US and EU might buy a little, but most of it is being bought by China, India, and Africa at a steep discount. As I’m sure you know. Everybody buying Russian oil deserves scorn, even if they are living in the EU or the US.
Lol first of all thats not true, please post any source and try to group by EU, China, India and Africa.
And what about the other point? Does Russia also need western democracy? Is that before or after Greenland?
I don’t give a fuck how Russia is run as long as they stop trying to steal land.
Afghanistan and Iraq were terrible mistakes. And many (most?) NATO states had nothing to do with Iraq. Not that it matters right now. I’m talking about Russia’s imperialism right now.
Okay Bucha pillager.
Throughout the deeply stupid and shameful invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, and this is true, the US never detonated a cargo ship sized bomb killing ten thousand people in a busy port city just because they bought sanctioned oil.
Pay them to sabotage the infrastructure of Russia and its allies. Plainly all this crew wants is money.
Oh, also, steal the oil.
Ah yes that’s it. Steal the oil, sell it, and use the proceeds to pay the crew to sabotage Russia and its allies.
The oil doesn’t even cover the damages so I’m not sure that’s the best way to use that money
What do you think the money should be spent on?
Repairing the cable. Sorry I thought it was implied