• @shalafi@lemmy.world
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    544 months ago

    Hang the captain and first mate, take the oil, sink the ship. This is how we’ve always dealt with pirates.

        • @AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
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          74 months ago

          Fair enough, but that’s still a form of scrapping as opposed to outright immediate sinking of the vessel. Far too often vessles are sunk, mostly intact, and that is causing countless amounts of pollution in our waterways.

        • Oniononon
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          54 months ago

          This is normal for russian navy as even their flagships are in a state a civilized nation would consider “scrap”.

          Moscow didn’t even know it was being sunk since its systems were in such disrepair.

            • @friend_of_satan@lemmy.world
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              24 months ago

              The point in question here is how public the event would be, not how effective. So in that regard, yes, Trump’s and even Epstien’s trials were quite public, regardless of how effective they were at rendering justice.

              You’re attacking a straw man, which is how effective the judicial system was. As for that attack, you’re absolutely right. Those three instances had laughable results and dumbfounding failures of justice.

          • @kreskin@lemmy.world
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            44 months ago

            Sink the boat so it interrupts shipping into one of their waterways. Do it with every sabotage boat from now on.

        • @seven_phone@lemmy.world
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          -64 months ago

          Remember these are not pirates they are crew being told what to do with families back in Mother Russia and a great many pressures on them. Better a trial with all the details spewing forth and Russia blaming birdstrike and threatening armageddon over a cable.

            • @seven_phone@lemmy.world
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              -44 months ago

              Pirates are not state sponsored they are self motivated and opportunist, the people responsible here are likely reluctant state operatives, possibly not fully aware of the consequences.

              • @kreskin@lemmy.world
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                44 months ago

                Pirates are not state sponsored they are self motivated and opportunist, the people responsible here are likely reluctant state operatives, possibly not fully aware of the consequences.

                Thats one far fetched speculation after another.

                You have no idea if they are state sponsored or not, and no data to prove it either way. Their actions follow a pattern of state sponsored destruction, but somehow you deny it. Seems you are just making stuff up here.

    • @gaael@lemmy.world
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      44 months ago

      In some civilized parts of the world, we’ve renounced death penalty some time ago and only the far-right wants it back.

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    The head of the investigation, Risto Lohi of the National Bureau of Investigation, told Reuters the vessel was threatening to cut a second power cable, Estlink1, and the BalticConnector gas pipe between Finland and Estonia at the time it was seized.

    “Lohi” is Finnish for “salmon”. That’s right. Inspector Salmon is in charge of this investigation. Thankyou, Finland.

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    Steal some of the oil. Replace it at correct stoichiometric ratio with ammonium nitrate or some other powerful oxidiser. Attach a detonator and tracking device to the ship. Don’t tell the crew. Let the crew go free. When the ship reaches its destination, detonate. Halifax explosion, round two.

    Fuck you, whoever would buy Russian oil.

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      I should maybe add that I don’t think this is actually a good idea. I can just see that it’s scientifically possible, and I enjoy constructing scenarios like this.

      But to those who are riding Putin’s dick, just know that these are the things the West could do, but chooses not to. And the fuck you to all buyers of Russian oil still stands. I don’t care how poor they are.

      • @eatCasserole@lemmy.world
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        24 months ago

        Oh yeah, it’s just fun to imagine murdering a bunch of civilians, who have absolutely no say in whose oil just sailed into their harbour. Disgusting.

        Would you rather buy Saudi oil? American oil? Yeah, like that’s any better.

      • @bomibantai@lemmy.world
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        04 months ago

        “…these are the things the West could do, but chooses not to.” Yeah, the West does whatever TF it’s done in Afghanistan, Iraq, West Asia, whatever France has done in Africa. “fuck you to all buyers of Russian oil” You mean like the US and EU? What do u think happens to the Russian oil once it’s refined to actual useful oil?

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          The US and EU might buy a little, but most of it is being bought by China, India, and Africa at a steep discount. As I’m sure you know. Everybody buying Russian oil deserves scorn, even if they are living in the EU or the US.

          • @bomibantai@lemmy.world
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            -34 months ago

            Lol first of all thats not true, please post any source and try to group by EU, China, India and Africa.

            And what about the other point? Does Russia also need western democracy? Is that before or after Greenland?

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              24 months ago

              Afghanistan and Iraq were terrible mistakes. And many (most?) NATO states had nothing to do with Iraq. Not that it matters right now. I’m talking about Russia’s imperialism right now.

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          Throughout the deeply stupid and shameful invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, and this is true, the US never detonated a cargo ship sized bomb killing ten thousand people in a busy port city just because they bought sanctioned oil.

  • @etuomaala@sopuli.xyz
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    64 months ago

    Pay them to sabotage the infrastructure of Russia and its allies. Plainly all this crew wants is money.