That’s what my guy at Cargill is for!

  • @grue@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Honestly, they already know – most farmers these days have college degrees in soil science or agribusiness or horticulture or whatever. After all, most farms are owned by Big Ag and they’ve presumably got the same “we just immediately shred your resume if you don’t have at least a bachelor’s, whether the job actually needs it or not” applicant gatekeeping standards as the rest of corporate America.

    If they’re not doing the sustainable thing it’s not because they’re ignorant, it’s because it’s less profitable than the unsustainable thing and they’re choosing the shortsighted option on purpose.

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        145 months ago

        I, a soil scientist, had to take linear algebra, stats, and calculus. Only stats was applicable.

    • Track_ShovelOPM
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      34 months ago

      A large reason for that is that corporate farms have won out over family farms. The family farms that are still standing have taken similar approaches and there’s been a lot more effort invested in actually learning the science and business as you point out. 30 years ago it was a much different story.

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    What do you mean all this nitrogen I’m putting down is burning my crops? I been doing it the same way for thirty-odds years.

    dumb city folk don’t know what they talk about

    • @shalafi@lemmy.world
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      335 months ago

      Dumb city folk think farmers don’t understand science.

      Without looking it up, what’s silage, what’s it for, how does it work. Go.

      • @FoxyFerengi@lemm.ee
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        I don’t think that at all. My family has had farms for the last four generations. The nitrogen thing is something I’ve actually heard, and it’s a great quote for memeing.

      • @Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de
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        Cool challenge

        Anaerobically fermented grass, it’s cattle feed for the winter, it ferments under covers without (much) air getting to it, that way it also doesn’t rot.

        I think. But I’m a network engineer so that could be wrong. It’s just what I think I heard in some random source I don’t remember.

      • Track_ShovelOPM
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        15 months ago

        A lot of that knowledge is passed on between generations, and was trial and error, rather than formal training.

        • @enbyecho@lemmy.world
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          45 months ago

          Another name for “trial and error” is “experimentation”. And another word for “training” is “doing”.

  • @Mac@mander.xyz
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    5 months ago

    Legit farmers are often highly knowledgeable in their field (pun intended).

    • @crimsoncobalt@lemmy.world
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      Looks like it to me. Something weird is going on with the red shirt’s waistline and where are his arms? Plus the shadows are too harsh for an overcast sky.

      • @mipadaitu@lemmy.world
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        175 months ago

        Watched an explanation of AI generated images and they pointed out that since the images start with a seed of black and white noise, they (almost) always come out with an even mix of light and dark areas.

        Once you see it, AI images are much easier to spot.

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    Actually even small-time farmers today are more sophisticated than you might think. At my last software job, at a relatively small agro company, I learned that any piece of farm equipment newer than 25 or 30 years has a controller that can run it - say like varying the amount of water, fertilizer, pesticide etc that gets applied to basically every square meter of a field. They take samples and develop computer maps showing the levels of moisture, nitrogen, phosphorous, etc. Then software creates programs for the equipment, to tailor what happens at every spot. I was surprised by how technical modern farming is. A lot of the equipment drives itself around, there’s just a human sitting in the cab in case something goes wrong. But of course all this tech increases their costs and they still struggle to make a profit.

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      As long as that sophistication is geared towards reaching capitalist targets, all it does is enable them to ruin the land through “tragedies of the commons” faster.

      Whether that’s desertification because you’re pumping up more groundwater than rain can replenish, nitrates continuing to exist after they leave your land, pesticides giving your customers cancer, insecticides causing a collapse of pollinator populations you rely on for crop yields, crop pandemics due to a lack of genetic diversity, or something else, modern capitalist farmers have a lot of fancy tools for destroying the planet and leaving society vulnerable to starvation.

  • @DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world
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    This here soil is as fer-tile as my cousin wife’s baby maker and no city slicken, fancy pant scientist is gunna tell me different, ya hear!