Bakers make bread. Kill the baker and you got no more bread at all. Bad analogy.
Kill the Baker and people can access the bread, and the resources the Baker was hoarding, and ALSO make bread. Bread making isn’t a genetic trait like hair color, it can be learned.
Yeah but in this town, they kill bakers . Don’t listen to this guy y’all, he’s just trying to up his baker tally so he can look cool eating bread. It’s a trap, don’t bake bread.
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Don’t do it, really guys, I’m not joking.
I’m not a baker I’m a patisserie.
Guys i found the baker who only bakes expensive bread for rich people, get him!!
You assume those people would 1. Actually make bread and not just eat what was left and then go back to being starving. 2. Somehow not be subject to the same exact economic conditions that required a baker to charge for bread in the first place (ie. Cover the cost of his inputs, afford a place to live, feed and cloth his children, etc.)
Hoarding is a strong word. Rather than blaming a baker that is producing something that benefits other people, why don’t we focus on the people who are starving. Why are they starving? How do we help them make enough to afford bread?
They’re starving because they bought too many lattes.
They’re starving because they refuse to eat anything other than avocado-toast
Exactly that’s why you kill them too, don’t leave it up to chance
So you’re saying that, in order to maximize evil, we should kill the baker?
If maximizing evil is the goal, killing the baker is the best thing you can do. Those people will eat some temporary bread and then go on starving. What’s worse, is more people will starve as well.
But then you need to set up a cult to keep on killing bakers, because there are incentives for someone else to take up the mantle.
or you take over operations, adulterate the bread with sawdust while selling the good stuff only to the 1% who can afford it. Also, maybe make it an overpriced subscription, where in order to have the privilege of buying bread, you also have to pay per loaf, too.
If that sounds like corpo-shit… that’s because it is.
Don’t you mean “what’s even better”?
And poison his bread.
Yeah. Meanwhile killing CEOs has no drawbacks because they do nothing of value and horde all the money which can be used for better than just choking the economy for everyone else.
Good CEO’s lead companies to brighter future!
Well, whole two of them, so your chance to kill one by mistake is kinda low, go wild.
“Human dragon” is in perhaps a better descriptor for the analogy
I wouldn’t say that they do nothing of value. Organizing companies has to happen. Is it worth their price? Not even fucking close. But crews cannot run themselves with efficiency. There has to be someone running the ship. But they do not deserve that much more. They get that by being corrupt and appeasing the investors MORE than making a company run correctly.
most CEOs don’t organize anything, that’s ironically what middle management does. the CEOs job is to maximize the amount of value extracted for the feudal lords
I beg to argue they organize the middle managers. Everyone answers to someone.
that’s the fun part, they actually don’t, most middle managers are the controlling instance already, and any case where they aren’t is because the corporate structure has multiple upper level management layers further reducing contact to the CEO
Kill only the greediest, wealthiest baker in the street. Next month, kill the next most greedy wealthy baker after him. Month three, all the bakers will be fighting to give more of their bread away than the next guy
Maybe this one just owns the bakery
That’s a landlord
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Given the context of the recent heroic event it’s important to remember that not only is it not the baker putting up the barrier but it is someone who actually probably can’t even do their job of doing nothing very well.
Killing the baker may lead to a problem where the bread runs out, but I suppose it’s also a good example of how baking is not magic and we could figure it our well enough to not need to put up with someone who would willingly let people starve.
Yup. The baker isn’t the one that owns the bakery. They don’t own the mills. They don’t own the farms.
Instead, what’s happened is one mega corporation has bought most of the bakeries, they set prices to the maximum level possible and have backroom negotiations with mills that an independent baker can’t get in the room to make. The mills do the same thing with the farms. And the farms are all consolidating into few owners who get to run on almost no employees (It doesn’t take a lot to run a modern farm). Further, the mega farms and mills end up driving small time farmers out of business because the mills won’t cut deals with small time farmers like they will with the megafarmers.
At every layer, there is some MBA asshole idiot justifying his parasitic existence because he thinks nobody else is as smart as him (even though he likely got the business because of his daddy or his wife’s daddy). He hordes the excess funds but builds himself a nice big house.
This is late stage capitalism in a nut shell.
Dude, people on Lemmy freak it if they don’t have their Starbucks coffee and their multiple online subscriptions.
They will categorically not learn to make bread, instead they will flock to Uber eats for those sweet points
People in here don’t have any idea on how hard being a baker is.
What are you talking about? “Ergmahgerd they like Starbucks” seriously can you hear yourself? Like what does Starbucks coffee and having online subscriptions have to do with someone’s ability to learn?
Touch grass.
I dunno, I think the baker might already give you their bread if you threaten them with death
The premise is that you want to kill the baker, not that you want their bread.
If I want to kill someone, I do not care about whatever consequences or effects it will have. That fucker is as good as dead.
Some More Bread Comic?
Saturday morning breakfast cereal
It’s been like a decade since I last went to that site, can’t believe he’s still going
Penny Arcade did a strip recently about the comic strip essentially being undead, as they have no ability to kill it off
Generally, bakers are blue collar hardworkers who do not gluttonously hoard their resources and instead sell at prices necessary for sustainability with a modest to moderate level of profit margins; eliminating one baker would reduce the number of skilled workers who know how to produce goods/services critical to society. The same cannot be said about people in certain other positions whom the aforementioned hypothetical you might instead want to kill.
If the artist believes that bakers’ role in society is not comparable to certain parasitic roles, that subtext has been lost in the satiric trope inversion.
Edit: Apparently this is an old comic, so the inferred modern subtext is not the artist’s intent. I was trying to think of a better scenario for what the artist was trying to convey. You want to kill a child but the child has O- blood and is registered for organ donation upon death?
Sure, that would be worse than a few starving people getting some bread temporarily. If the baker is dead then there will be more starving people then we started with.
Wait, wasn’t that the point? I thought the post point was for the people to have bread for like 5 minutes and then die horribly of hunger later because they don’t know how to turn on the oven correctly without starting a fire and forget about even knowing how to mix the flour and yeast in the correct proportions and time to not create inedible lumps of overcooked flour
This feels like a slightly odd take for SMBC given the assumed subtext
It’s an old comic I’ve found through the random feature. Felt like it would elicit some good discussion.
Bakers have skills and contribute to their communities, unlike ceos. I don’t think it’s relevant to Luigi
Baking is an easy trade to learn. Put the greedy stodge through the slicer forthwith
Said someone who’s never baked before, or known a baker, or have watched any culinary show. Following one simplified recipe and hope it turns out alright? You haven’t learned baking as a trade. Might as well say Plumbing or Carpentry is easy. Sure they can glue two pipes together. But, can they design and implement a fully functioning DWV system that’s up to code? I would rather rewire an entire house’s electrical system than spend a whole day trying to figure out why I can’t knead this fucking dough right.
Nice how people always assume someone knows nothing of a subject they proclaim knowledge of innit. I do and have baked more than a couple things iny life Mr. knowitall
eh, I put plenty of “or” statements in there. If you proclaim knowledge and then exclaim an ignorant claim, I’m just musing on your assuming tirade.
There is such a thing as Culinary School, you see?
The culinary schooling I got was my grandma
Sounds like a hell yeah to me
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