• @TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
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    1395 months ago

    To the people thinking this means Russia will no longer be able to interfere with other countries over the internet: you are probably mistaken. Disinformation teams will still be connected to the internet. All this will mean is Russians having even less exposure to the world outside of what little Vladolf wants them to see.

    It will probably make the European CS2 servers less toxic though.

    • @ouch@lemmy.world
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      55 months ago

      How are we going to get more treasures like “Blending in with the Russians”?

    • @rottingleaf@lemmy.world
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      15 months ago

      It’s not about what Russians can get from the outside, it’s more about what they can get to the outside.

      I think the idea is to have some capacity to temporarily preserve some connectivity, while mowing down protesters or something like that.

      They are doing such exercises for like 10 years btw.

      But when the war in Ukraine stops with some “mission accomplished” ceasefire, there will likely be more violent signs of popular disagreement with Putin. Because, well, people with combat experience will come back. Some of them to ask for money on the streets, some of them to abuse their relatives and neighbors, and some of them to do crime, and some of them probably to stir shit up.

  • @SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Wouldn’t it collapse their economy? Like how many Russians are digital sex workers selling content to the rest of the world? And doesn’t a shitton of money flow into Russia via ransomware

    • @rottingleaf@lemmy.world
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      105 months ago

      Like how many Russians are digital sex workers selling content to the rest of the world?

      I think those will move somewhere with Internet connectivity.

    • _cryptagion [he/him]
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      45 months ago

      You know, I somehow very highly doubt the Kremlin cares much about how sex workers might be affected.

    • JohnEdwa
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      25 months ago

      Are there even any payment processors they can use for that? I remember it being an issue when the sanctions hit.

    • Cauê
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      -75 months ago

      Wow, you are really brainwashed if you think the macro-economy of a country depend on these…

  • @AlolanYoda@mander.xyz
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    295 months ago

    Fuck. Please don’t take down Sci hub… I know there are mirrors elsewhere, should I be worried?

    I’m not even going to make the usual joke, by saying sarcastically that I don’t use it and wouldn’t recommend it to anyone. It’s the biggest contributor to scientific progress in the last decade and I’m tired of pretending it’s not

  • @Mandy@sh.itjust.works
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    205 months ago

    Yeah I’m sure going full north Korea and cutting of everyone below the government is gonna work well

  • @gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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    5 months ago

    tbf the internet is going to consist mostly of 3 things in the future:

    • propaganda
    • scientific information
    • funny cat videos

    So I guess it’s not really a surprise that this is happening.

    • @nucleative@lemmy.world
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      55 months ago

      The smart ones all know how to use VPNs as well. They know what’s up.

      Crazy thing is they only need to control the masses who are mostly uneducated or don’t care enough to figure out what’s going on. Turns out that even the USA has a massive group of the latter type.

        • Sibbo
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          35 months ago

          What has happened to the Uighurs in China?

            • @OwlPaste@lemmy.world
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              So I have been in Xinjiang, specifically Urumqi in 2010, about a year after there were local tensions and riots (I didn’t know about the riots until after I returned home). It was summer and I saw police in full riot gear, in APCs in groups of 10-15 at a time patroling the city. Not roadblocks everywhere, but multiple such patrols. I still felt safe (as a westerner, its super safe).

              So there were clear, heavy local tensions. Now you are right about the news we here are obviously one sided. You have to take some critical thoughts about what is likely happening. However inter province travel requires you to present passport when buying a ticket. It’s not really a sign of a free and fair society.

              I don’t keep up with internal Chinese politics beyond vaguely being interested in HK, but seeing what happened there you can make a fair assumption that in the mainland things would be harder for folks who don’t fall in line.

        • @rottingleaf@lemmy.world
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          25 months ago

          People have a misconception that China is nazi Germany, or East Germany, but its not that bad. (I mean its not “great” but its not “nazi germany”, you get what I’m saying?)

          This was the tremendous stupidity of Nazi Germany - open violence and cruelty against dissidents (and, of course, Jews and other people deemed fine to murder). Ideologically motivated, but counterproductive. They had that vampire “blood for the blood god” aesthetic, if you look at Nazi-time crests, it can be seen very well too, sort of a Satanist state.

          Actually every sane totalitarian regime in existence feels not great, but not Nazi Germany.

    • @asteriskeverything@lemmy.world
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      45 months ago

      No offense but this is incredibly short sighted and you’re assuming the average person seeks out new information. We really don’t and are more exposed to it in our daily lives of consumption. In 5, 10, 15 years it will increasingly become a problem being cut off from the outside world. Even now many believe the propaganda

    • @rottingleaf@lemmy.world
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      25 months ago

      It’s not about restricting information. It’s not a problem in Russia really.

      It’s about simplifying surveillance, so that in some civil war scenario the Internet connectivity were still there, but only the controlled and monitored kinds of it.

      And also it is - it really is - about preserving connectivity if backbone cables going into Russia from abroad get severed or shut down.

      I still think all this is about civil war scenarios. Russia’s history in the last 30 years is about its elite preserving itself at the expense of geopolitical power. They are just preparing for another stage.