• Solumbran@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    “Why care about other countries instead of focusing on our own” is often a manipulative way to say “let’s allow xenophobia and sacrifice other nationalities to fuel our own”.

    And I’m sorry, but the guy in the last picture probably has it much easier than people going through the war in Ukraine.

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      7 days ago

      Men in Ukraine can’t even cross the border to escape that Nazi death cult, nevermind vote to end this intractable war over natural resources that America started.

      FUCK UKRAINE. FUCK ISRAEL. FUCK YOUR WAR MACHINE.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      “Why care about other countries instead of focusing on our own”

      What about Ukraine and Israel make them notable relative to, say, Brazil or The Philippines or Angola? Why is “caring” restricted entirely to sending in more military hardware for the purposes of butchering enemy troops and infrastructure?

      the guy in the last picture probably has it much easier than people going through the war in Ukraine

      Until the police come by, sure. But guess where else we’re dropping tens of billions of dollars.

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        3 months ago

        I never said that Brazil or the Philippines or Angola shouldn’t be helped. And I don’t see why helping no countries at all would be better than helping a few (well other than Israel, which is trying really hard to top off the nazis).

        None of what you mentioned is related to what I had written. My point was that there is no moral grounds to try to say “we should help us americans instead of those stupid foreigners”. The sad facts that which countries get helped and where the budgets get put are heavily dependant on the personal interest of politicians is not linked to that, it just adds problems on top.

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      2 years ago

      The USA shouldn’t be funding wars abroad when it’s own people are starving and homeless. This is not xenophobia. That is common sense. The USA shouldn’t be funding wars period, actually.

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          2 years ago

          Ukraine has a right wing government that dissolved all the other parties and which has Nazis platoons. That is fascism. The USA is funding fascism in Ukraine while Russia is trying to denazify it.

          There was also a U.S. funded genocide happening in Dombass and Crimea that the Russians stopped. The USA doesn’t help against oppression. The USA exports oppression.

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                6 days ago

                I can support Ukraine’s right to defend themselves from Russian invaders and also be against Nazis.
                I mean I know this is hard to understand, but just try real, real, REAL hard.

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                  6 days ago

                  Not when Nazis control the Ukrainian government. Zelensky is a kapo stooge that has zero control over anything.

                  Ukrainians can’t even vote. They can’t “defend themselves” against TCC press gangs forcing their men into vans off the street. “Busification”.

                  Let Ukrainians vote. That’s how you help them “defend themselves”.

                  The coup government has no right to “defend itself” anymore than Israel’s genocidal occupation does, just another fascist ethnostate proxy for Western imperialism.

                  I understand.

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                    6 days ago

                    That is complete bullshit, Zelenky is not a Nazi. And frankly, the country doesn’t belong to us, so we don’t get to decide how their government is run.
                    And hey, the country also doesn’t belong to Putin. Putin is the one who invaded Ukraine, and not the other way around. You want the war to end? How about Putin surrenders and stops his invasion? How about that?

                    The coup government has no right to “defend itself” anymore than Israel’s genocidal occupation does, just another fascist ethnostate proxy for Western imperialism.

                    I see you’re trying to compare Zelenksy, who is actually justified in defending his country, with Israel, who are the perpetuators of genocide. A better comparison would be Putin and Russia with Israel. You know why? Because Putin started the damn war. Putin invaded Ukraine, not the other way around. Putin is the aggressor in Ukraine, just like how Israel is the aggressor in Palestine. Next time get it right.