Benjamin Netanyahu has warned Lebanese people that they could face “destruction and suffering” like the Palestinians in Gaza if they don’t “free” the country from Hezbollah.

“You have an opportunity to save Lebanon before it falls into the abyss of a long war that will lead to destruction and suffering like we see in Gaza,” the Israeli prime minister said in a video address directed to the people of Lebanon.

“I say to you, the people of Lebanon: Free your country from Hezbollah so that this war can end.”

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    • breakfastmtnOP
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      -147 months ago

      If by “they” you mean Israel, no they aren’t.

      That ad is fake. It’s propaganda from a small, extremist organization that advocates for Israeli settlement of southern Lebanon. They’ve also sent eviction notices to residents of Labanon via balloons and drones.

      • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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        237 months ago

        If by “they” you mean Israel, no they aren’t.

        If they meant “far right citizens of Israel that agree with their government’s genocide” then, yeah, they are.

        Saying that group has nothing to do with Bibi seems an awful lot like saying trump had nothing to do with 1/6.

        Can you help me understand how its different?

        • breakfastmtnOP
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          -107 months ago

          Sure. First, is that an advertisement for property? No, it isn’t. The statement that it’s advertising property is false. It’s political propaganda designed to look like an advertisement.

          The state of Israel and political groups within that state are different entities. When the Proud Boys release some vile statement, I’m sure someone, somewhere is like “OMG look what the US is doing!” But the Proud Boys and the US state are different entities, even if the Proud Boys reside within the US state. Even if there are US officials whose values align closely with those chuds.

          The comment I replied to was wrong about both who was speaking and what they were saying.

          Is there some way that ‘The state of Israel is advertising property for sale in Lebanon’ is a true statement?

          • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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            7 months ago

            Oh wow…

            I really didn’t think you’d just outright say you think trump is innocent in regards to his supporters attempting a coup

            But that still doesn’t change that you made one assumption about what “they” meant. And ignored the other possibilities.

      • @Sundial@lemm.ee
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        Yeah, I’m not buying that for a second. Just because there’s no clear link between these settler groups and the Israeli government doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. This is what Israel does. Displaces a population through force and violence and then settles the land for their own people.

        • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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          No. There’s a very clear link…

          Here’s the person in charge of Israeli police:

          Ben-Gvir has been convicted eight times for offenses that include racism and supporting a terrorist organization. As a teen, his views were so extreme that the army banned him from compulsory military service.

          Ben-Gvir gained notoriety in his youth as a follower of the late racist rabbi Meir Kahane. He first became a national figure when Ben-Gvir famously broke a hood ornament off then-Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin’s car in 1995.

          “We got to his car, and we’ll get to him too,” he said, just weeks before Rabin was assassinated by a Jewish extremist opposed to his peace efforts with the Palestinians.

          Two years later, Ben-Gvir took responsibility for orchestrating a campaign of protests, including death threats, that forced Irish singer Sinead O’Connor to cancel a concert for peace in Jerusalem.

          https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-bengvir-jerusalem-alaqsa-cd27dfed6d63f4dec3eae2f51ee23ff0

          When you put a racist terrorist in charge of National Security. It’s pretty impossible to seperate the administration from racist terrorists…

        • breakfastmtnOP
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          -57 months ago

          What exactly aren’t you buying?

          It is literally not an advertisement for property. No one is advertising property for sale. Your speculation about the relationship between two groups not selling property seems pretty pointless in this case.

          There are plenty things to be angry at Israel about. You shouldn’t waste your time being angry about imaginary things.

          • @Sundial@lemm.ee
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            I’m not buying the fact that Israel has no plans to settle Lebanon once they manage to displace enough people. We’ve seen it done many times to the Palestinians over the past 70+ years. There’s no reason for anyone to believe they don’t want to do the same here. They literally tried doing that in the 90s with the south of Lebanon, and Hezbolllah harassed them so much that they were forced to leave the area and give it back to Lebanon.

            • breakfastmtnOP
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              -47 months ago

              What’s that got to do with me? I wasn’t talking about whether Israel has plans to occupy or settle Lebanon. I was commenting on whether they are advertising property for sale, which they are not.

              • @Sundial@lemm.ee
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                What do you mean what’s that got to do with you? I never talked about you in the first place?

                • breakfastmtnOP
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                  -57 months ago

                  You:

                  I’m not buying the fact that Israel has no plans to settle Lebanon

                  I’m not selling that.

                  I’m not commenting on Israeli intentions in Lebanon. I’m not defending Israel or their aims. I’m just commenting on one small thing:

                  Is Israel advertising property for sale in Lebanon?

                  And they aren’t.

                  I’m not trying to convince you that it has some big implication for their intentions in Lebanon. It doesn’t. They just aren’t advertising property for sale in Lebanon. Whatever Israel’s intentions are, that claim is false.

      • @DancingBear@midwest.social
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        177 months ago

        In general I’m not a fan of hitler or nazi comparisons. I understand how someone could take offense at the use of the phrase “grammar nazi” for example.

        But the rhetoric and the genocide we have heard from Netanyahu and his cabinet is atrocious, dehumanizing propaganda against not only the Palestinians, but also anyone who believes that all humans should have access to even the most basic human needs.

        And as time goes on, Netanyahu is only proving what a sick racist bastard he really is.

        He will be remembered for being a shitty human being. And he is seriously hurting the reputation of Israel on the world stage and endangering the lives of actual Israeli citizens and Jewish people all over the world.

        • @irreticent@lemmy.world
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          17 months ago

          So, similar…. But the difference is Netanyahu has a smaller penis?

          I don’t know. I haven’t seen it.

  • @Count042@lemmy.ml
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    What language was the announcement in?

    Israel is very consistent in using the language for televised statements in the language of the intended audience.

    When Israel states something in English, the intended audience is generally the US, not whom they are addressing.

    • @IcyToes@sh.itjust.works
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      77 months ago

      It’s looking like the Oprah meme. “You get a genocide, and you get a genocide, and you get a genocide”

      I simply can not comprehend how any politicians defend Israel and don’t have their reputation in tatters.

      • @sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world
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        07 months ago

        I think the same. Not sure what to do about it though. If our choices in this “democracy” are a criminal who wants to murder us all and end our democracy (Trump) or a political party that openly supports genocide (Harris), then its time for our system to find some third solution than voting for one of these two. Its hard to figure out how to do that though. We’re all absolutely being played, both dem and republican-- and they arent even doing a compelling job lying to us. Its an extra insult-cherry on top.

        • @IcyToes@sh.itjust.works
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          27 months ago

          I’m from the UK and we have pretty wank choices. Last election it was pro Israel vs pro Israel. Unfortunately politics is like a bus, and you gotta ride the one heading closest to your direction. We basically were heading for Labour landslide so in some seats, people could choose another option.

          In presidential elections, its a little diferrent. Trump absolutely would give unquestionably. He did this with recognising Jerusalem wholly as Israel capital. I’m not defending Dems, they’re shit. Joe has been poor on this. Kamala, we don’t know too well. We do know if she wants to be elected, she cannot outright say anything or AIPAC will throw everything against her.

          First Past the Post sucks as an electoral system. Sometimes it’s about building support for the good forces in the lesser elections (state etc to apply pressure). The moment it looks like their power is about to go, they rethink their positions.

  • @Aceticon@lemmy.world
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    It’s the exact same playbook as in Palestine.

    No doubt there will soon be Israeli “settlers” in Lebanese territory surrounded by enormous areas stolen from the locals “for security”.

  • Cyborganism
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    257 months ago

    Then they’ll do Syria, then Egypt with the Muslim brotherhood, then they’ll attack Iraq, then they’ll attack Saudi Arabia, and it’ll continue on and on like this.

  • @IcyToes@sh.itjust.works
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    They always claim Hezbollah is terrorist, but surely the IDF have a larger civilian kill count and a larger percentage of civilians killed.

    Israel feeling pretty confident there is zero consequences to their actions now.

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    Netanyahu: “Here I go, killing again!” If I was the US president would simply give Netanyahu the Osama Bin Laden treatment. Have some special ops dump his body in the ocean, send a message to the next Israeli PM there are consequences.

        • @Glytch@lemmy.world
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          57 months ago

          Oct 7 was the pretense Bibi needed to start his genocide. Why would they stop it?

          Same thing as George W. Bush (moreso Cheney and Haliburton) wanting war in the middle east and letting 9-11 happen despite actionable intelligence beforehand.

        • @sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world
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          27 months ago

          Agreed. Mossad spends a lot of time and huge amounts of money spreading myths of how capable they and the Israeli military are. A good chunk of Israeli military are conscripts serving short terms. Israel is powerful because they have bought off western powers, not because they are in any way a power unto themselves. If the western powers would start prosecuting Israeli spies and theives itd be a good start, and the world would quickly see they arent scary against anyone with decent funding.

  • @geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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    Terrorism is when ones tries to achieve political objectives by putting pressure on a population through attacks on non-military targets.

    What Israel is saying here is like Bin Laden hitting the Twin Towers to “pressure their political opponents”.

  • @bamfic@lemmy.world
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    137 months ago

    Points gun at someone’s head.“Don’t make me kill you! If I do it’ll be your own fault!”