• nebulaone@lemmy.world
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    The only reason I am buying Pixel devices is the amazing third party os / rom support (especially GrapheneOS).

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      Same. I don’t care about the camera or AI features, the speakers could be louder, and a few other nitpicks, but it supports GrapheneOS, has a long SW support cycle, and has some great security hardware, so I bought one. I actually kind of prefer my older, crappy Moto phone in some ways, but I’m unwilling to use an insecure device, and ROMs aren’t supported (well, I guess I could sign an abusive agreement).

      So yeah, Pixel wins for me because of GOS and longer SW support. That’s honestly it.

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    When is the industry going to recognize that the camera needs to be flush with the back?

    This is ridiculous

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      1 year ago

      If the camera really does need to be that thick for lens reasons, couldn’t we at least make the rest of the body bigger with more battery?

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        Yes, but then it would be slightly heavier and have way too good of a battery life, reducing power bank sales and having the phone last longer without needing to be replaced due to battery degradation.

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        Mine does that when I put a cover on my phone.

        The cover is on the same level as the camera as there’s a cutout on that bit.

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            My plastic cover doesn’t provide power, no. My cover levels the back to be on even level with the camera — much in the same way the proposed larger battery would.

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              Yeah, makes sense chief, but a bigger batteries main purpose would be to be a bigger battery while also being level.

              Seems like your flimsy plastic cober is kinda shit

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                It’s a perfectly good silicone cover. You’ve never heard of silicone covers for phones?

                The only things shit here are your reading comprehension and attitude.

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        Then they can’t advertise that the phone is x.x mm thick (if you ignore the thickest part!)

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      Give it a few more years. At this rate, by 2028, the entire back of the phone will be camera bump and you’ll be able to lay it down on a flat surface at last.

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    Hey Google, this makes me not want a Pixel. I will however accept a large $um to cea$e $haring that $entiment.

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    Tech reviews are a corrupt mess and can seldom be trusted, especially reviews by “influencers”.

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      Also these days it’s all about rushing content and pandering to the lowest common denominator. Though pop tech channels were always this way. I stumbled on Unbox Therapy lately and it’s so blatant that it almost feels illegal.

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    Wow those camera bumps look so ugly. They had a nice look in the previous generations

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        I hate the bumps. The camera in the 4a/5 generation was fine. Hate the new look and feel but had to upgrade because of security updates and not wanting to custom rom because I value NFC payments too much.

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          And There’s some dumbass sack of cartilage that thinks we bought these phone because the aesthetic elevated them over the competition when really we bought them despite them not being designed with human hands in mind

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        Do you use the phone without a protective case? I find that most cases are designed so that the bump is flush with the back of the case.

        That being said, I prefer thicker cases like the Otterbox oder Spigen Tough whatever series, so I could see how such a case would be “too much” for someone.

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          Every phone I use a case. And every case I use, any camera is at least slightly recessed to protect the lens.

          I’ve never given the slightest crap about bumps because its going in a case, and the only people I know who don’t use a case are the same people walking around with broken screens and lenses.

          So I’ve never understood any review about how a phone looks without a case. That said, I also like 3.5mm jacks, SD cards for expansion, and replaceable batteries. I don’t care about shaving 1mm off the thickness, 1/8th of an ounce of weight, or any of that nonsense.

          I hate what Steve Jobs has done to technology (and the world, considering what a piece of total garbage he was as a person and how many people idolize that d-bag).

          Anyway. /rant.

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            1 year ago

            I share all those opinions, so your rant saved me some potential typing in the future.

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          I have both an otter box and a spigen to try to make the bump more comfortable. The otter box is better. The bump still sits so proud so as to be annoying

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            On the 8 Pro, the bump is recessed relative to the Otterbox case (given the “tough” Otterbox model for the 8 Pro, no idea what it’s called)

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          I wish mine was. I use the Spigen Liquid Air, which is a pretty great case, but it doesn’t solve the bump issue. I prefer thinner cases, and I specifically avoided the Pro because it’s too big, and a big case would kill a large part of why I got the non-Pro model.

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          I had a pixel 3a I really liked back in the day. All I want, though, in the world, is a reasonably sized smartphone with decent specs and good hardware security. It bothers me that you have to pick 2/3

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            Yeah I miss small phones. My Galaxy s10e and iPhone 13 mini were great. They just stopped making small phones for some reason. Today’s “normal sized” phones would be considered tablets 10 years ago. But hey, my hands ain’t growing…

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              “The market demands” we’re always told. Meanwhile half the people I meet wish phones still came in reasonable sizes. Really makes me think it has less to do with what the market demands and more what the product managers at the tech companies prefer for themselves

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        I would think the camera bar would make holding the phone easier, is that not the case? I have a note 20 ultra and I find cases with horizontal camera cover sliders significantly more comfortable to hold than those that try to make the camera bump less noticeable

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          For me it’s not harder to hold, but it does seem to catch on things periodically. I honestly don’t care much about the camera, and it taking up so much space is annoying. My old phone was pretty much flush (Moto G Power), and the main reason I went with the Pixel is the longer software support and compatibility with GrapheneOS. If a bumpless phone existed that met those two criteria, I would get that instead of the Pixel.

          It’s not a deal breaker, but I do find it a little annoying.

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          I really like the camera bar, and definitely makes it easier to hold

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        I know a few people (including myself) who use pixel. They’re pretty moderately priced (compared to iphones) and the functionality is nice. Also, they have the longest Android suppoet.

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          Not many complaints on my side either. I just wanted a phone without nonsense installed. It’s not quite as customisable as I may want (I can’t get rid of some pre installed applications, but yeah.

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              I bought it in the UK, no network locks these days, no bloat. I just mean standard stuff like the Calendar, Gmail, etc.