• @sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz
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      What functionality would I lose/gain if I switch from Firefox to Librewolf? I’m admittedly an amateur in the privacy space, and I’ve been pretty content with Firefox + Ublock and container tabs for different profiles, but I consistently get the issue that my browser fingerprint is pretty unique, and I have no idea how to or even if I can anonymize that anymore.

      • @Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
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        Librewolf is not associated with Mozilla and does not receive their primary source of funding from Google like Mozilla does. I really like having the same browser and browser synchronization between my phone and desktop/laptop, so librewolf is out for me. They have no interest or resources to build an Android version. Waterfox does at least have desktop / android option and takes things at least one small step further away from Google.

        • Andromxda 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼OP
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          It is the same browser. LibreWolf doesn’t change much of the Firefox code, mostly just the configuration. They enable various privacy/security settings by default and remove Mozilla telemetry. You can go to the LibreWolf settings and enable Firefox Sync, and it will work just fine with your Mozilla account and other Firefox browsers.

          For Android, I like to use Mull, it’s a hardened build of Firefox, similar to LibreWolf.

        • @sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz
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          410 months ago

          Thanks for the answer! I run Windows, iOS and Linux across multiple devices, and sync is definitely needed for me as well. I’ll look into Waterfox!

          • Andromxda 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼OP
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            The previous answer is misleading and partially just wrong. Firefox Sync works just fine in LibreWolf, you just need to enable it in the settings. I currently sync my LibreWolf browser on my Linux desktop to Firefox on iOS and Mull on Android, no issues whatsoever. The only Mozilla services that LibreWolf intentionally removes are their telemetry and Pocket.

      • Mkengine
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        Switching from Firefox to Librewolf has some pros and cons. Librewolf is a fork of Firefox focused on privacy and security, with telemetry stripped out and privacy settings maxed out by default. You’ll gain better out-of-the-box privacy protections, meaning less tracking and data collection without having to tweak settings yourself.

        However, you might lose some convenience. Librewolf might not support certain Firefox features like Sync, since it relies on Mozilla’s servers (not sure about that point, maybe it does work). It can also break some websites due to the stricter privacy settings. Another thing to consider is that you won’t get updates as quickly as Firefox.

        Regarding browser fingerprinting, it’s a tricky beast. Librewolf can help somewhat by making your fingerprint less unique, but it’s not a silver bullet. Tools like uBlock Origin and container tabs are great, but adding something like the CanvasBlocker extension can also help reduce fingerprinting. Ultimately, no setup is perfect, but Librewolf is a solid step towards better privacy.

      • @PetroGuy@lemmy.ca
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        210 months ago

        if it’s fingerprinting you care about, i’d give mullvad browser a try. it’s a firefox fork tailored to increase privacy and blend you into the crowd (as long as you don’t change any setting/install addons). it’s very very neat.

      • @TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
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        Mostly it’s just FF but with more private defaults (that you can change in the settings trivially anyway), although there are one or two extras.

        There is a potential issue, though. Librewolf runs behind, so security vulnerabilities, particularly for zero-day exploits, take longer to be patched.

  • @kakes@sh.itjust.works
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    It baffles me that they sell Chrome as private and/or secure, and baffles me even more that people believe them.

  • @ComeHereOrIHookYou@lemmy.world
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    This is hilarious! It even works on Edge, Vivaldi and even Brave 🤣. Good thing I use Firefox in almost everything or general day to day use

    • GoogleSellsAds
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      Or anything Google for that matter. I see a lot of praise on Lemmy for their Pixel phones, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they eventually find there was a backdoor in their firmware all this time. Yes of course, I can not prove that right now, but this news about Google Chrome isn’t news for no reason. Don’t trust anything Google if you care about privacy, it is literally their business model (selling targeted ads).

        • GoogleSellsAds
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          110 months ago

          People don’t hate Google as much as they should. It’s cringeworthy how much they promote this ad company on this platform. They don’t even realze themselves they got comprised.

      • @Emerald@lemmy.world
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        410 months ago

        Well pretty much all computers have a backdoor to the CPU. That hasn’t been proven for Pixel phones though.

      • Andromxda 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼OP
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        I fucking hate Google and wouldn’t use any of their (proprietary) software, but Pixel phones are amazing. Hear me out, Google is the only phone manufacturer right now, that puts extensive hardware security features like MTE, a secure element, as well as a bunch of others in their phones. The Google Titan M2 is based on an open-source project called OpenTitan, and Google has even contributed their own changes upstream. It’s based on the open RISC-V architecture, and it’s the most complete and secure implementation of a secure element that you can find in an Android phone. The only thing that comes even close is the “Secure Enclave” in Apple ARM chips, that are used in modern iPhones, iPads and Macs. I understand the concern about a potential backdoor in the firmware, but that’s a valid concern with basically every CPU on the market right now. x86 are ARM are completely proprietary, so you can’t really trust any CPU based on one of these architectures. The old Google Titan M1 was based on ARM, Apple’s Secure Enclave is also based on ARM, as well as Snapdragon’s SPU (which is incomplete and insecure anyway). The Titan M2, being based on open hardware architecture and firmware, is the most trustworthy secure element, despite being made by Google. It includes features like Insider Attack Resistance, support for the Weaver API, Android StrongBox hardware keystore implementation and is used for a secure implementation of Android Verified Boot. GrapheneOS is free, open-source, and doesn’t use any proprietary Google apps/services by default. Although I hate Google, a Pixel with GrapheneOS is currently the best option for a secure smartphone.

          • Andromxda 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼OP
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            Ah yes, definitely promoting Google

            I fucking hate Google and wouldn’t use any of their (proprietary) software

            I hope you realize how dumb your comment is

    • @raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world
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      I am “slightly” worried that there’s only a single option left. That’s only 1 organization’s corruption removed from total loss of control over browsing privacy :/

  • @4am@lemm.ee
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    Remember when Google pushed for use of open standard in the browser to force Microsoft IE out of the market? Oh yeah I ‘member

  • @cubism_pitta@lemmy.world
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    Google does a lot of standards breaking things.

    Like allowing a link on Google Apps Marketplace to open a new window (like popup) with POST instead of GET. (This pretty much ensures that buying an app will fail for browsers that follow the spec)

    • Victor
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      This garbage behavior is in Chromium as well?

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    I already ditched Windows for Linux a month ago because of spyware. Everything Google-related is next. My phone is going to be the hardest thing to de-infest.

    • @flop_leash_973@lemmy.world
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      In my experience you either have to trade one devil for the other with Apple or accept buying hardware from the ad company so you can use GrapheneOS.

      • Tywèle [she|her]
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        110 months ago

        For ease of use Apple might be the most convenient alternative to Google. At least for smartphones.

        • @moonburster@lemmy.world
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          210 months ago

          Ease of use and apple are not near each other in my dictionary.

          I think a lot of things are designed very unlogical

          • Tywèle [she|her]
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            That might be because you are just not used to it. Comparable to the switch from Windows to Linux.

            • @moonburster@lemmy.world
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              210 months ago

              I’m using Linux and tried different distros. I also used chrome os and windows Phone. I tried ios, hence my feelings towards it

              • Tywèle [she|her]
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                110 months ago

                And many people tried Linux and were having difficulties adapting to it at first and most probably gave up. Just like you did with iOS.

                • @moonburster@lemmy.world
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                  Pff, sure buddy. Used it for 4 months due to my phone being dead. Go shill someone else. If the adoption of a new os goes against what I want of said os, then it’s not an os for me. Simple as that

    • Andromxda 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼OP
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      I already ditched Windows for Linux a month ago because of spyware.

      Great!

      Everything Google-related is next.

      Even better.

      My phone is going to be the hardest thing to de-infest.

      If you plan on getting a new phone soon, I recommend a Google Pixel, on which you can install GrapheneOS. Yes, ironically Google devices are the best for installing alternative operating systems and removing all the Google BS. GrapheneOS is completely free and open source, and based on the Android Open Source Project. It incorporates many privacy and security enhancements, and gives you total freedom and control over your device. In my opinion, it’s the best option for degoogling a phone.

    • @nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br
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      610 months ago

      Welcome to the world of freedom. The first months may be a bit uncomfortable, but it’s a journey worth taking. Be welcome!

    • @asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world
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      I’m also doing this. Proton is amazing, for the most part. Ente Photos is also incredible for ditching Google Photos, although I’ll probably switch to Proton Photos when that comes out since Ente is pricey.

      • @pathief@lemmy.world
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        Isn’t proton photos built into their Proton Drive already? It’s implementation is… barebones… On Android but it works.

        • @asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world
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          It is, but I’d barely consider it a launch of anything. It displays photos, but that’s it. I could already upload and view photos on Proton Drive before they “launched” this.

      • Tywèle [she|her]
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        Or if you have the skills you can selfhost Immich which is an excellent replacement for Google Photos.

    • @CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world
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      110 months ago

      Honestly I just keep my phone as my designated privacy nightmare so I can get free phone calls on wifi and keep in touch with family members who are still on facebook.

    • @Katana314@lemmy.world
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      My biggest issue is video streaming on older computers. I have an old laptop I use casually for video playing in the background, and Webkit browsers like Edge definitely load YouTube with far less stuttering. I’m still trying to find good alternatives - lately even changing the user agent doesn’t seem to make it faster.

      • @TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
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        This to me sounds like an issue with hardware video decoding not working right and it falling back to software decoding on the CPU.

    • @nutsack@lemmy.world
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      there’s a portion of the internet that just doesn’t work in Firefox because the company pays only $2 million a year for developers and they can’t do it

      I mean web developers not the Firefox developers stop down voting me

      I use Firefox and Linux and I don’t drive a car how about that

      please give me $40

      • @JaddedFauceet@lemmy.world
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        2410 months ago

        As part of our company’s security policy, our IT admin disallows firefox to be installed in dev machine.

        our engineers cannot test their work in firefox.

        LOL

        • @sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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          That’s wack.

          I think our company does something similar (Chrome by default, need to ask IT for anything else), but our department just said, “we need Macs to do our work, you have no power here…” I hate macOS, but I hate stupid IT policies more.

        • @xavier666@lemm.ee
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          Whenever I face an issue in our company portal and I ask the IT team, their response is “Can you please try on Google Chrome?”

          🤦🏽🤦🏽

        • @nutsack@lemmy.world
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          there’s no quality control with a test suite of browsers and versions running in virtual machines?

          • @JaddedFauceet@lemmy.world
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            Due to security policy, we cannot run vm. Oh, btw, we do android development too. I guess they didn’t know android studio runs a vm. So that is ok

      • @Omgpwnies@lemmy.world
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        I’ve yet to find more than a handful of pages that have had issues, and most were fairly poorly coded to begin with

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    Ianal, but this sounds like something worthy of suing their ass over. There’s not much Google would respond to and good luck beating their lawyers, but the only language they speak is $, so please try to take as much as possible away from them for this garbage.

  • @CriticalMiss@lemmy.world
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    Not a legal mastermind by a long shot but it seems like a DMA violation. Someone needs to get the EU on their ass.

      • Billegh
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        410 months ago

        Just make sure it isn’t the Pomeranians this time

        • Victor
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          210 months ago

          I had to look up what the Pomeranian dog breed is, because I’m not good with dog breeds. Soon as the page of images loaded I burst out laughing. 😆 Thank you. Good start to my day.

          • Billegh
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            210 months ago

            Glad to help. 😁 Get out there with that little dog energy.

            • Victor
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              lmao is been good so far. Have to make a long trip with the kids today, so it helped. ❤️