Yes I am aware that they’re somehow supposed to reduce plastic waste because the cap can’t get lost … unless you cut it off, of course.

Yes I am also aware that there are people with disabilities (shaky hands, weak grip, etc.) who are thankful for these and actually like the design. Good for them, and I mean that in a non-sarcastic way.

But personally, I hate these things with all the “first world problems” rage I can muster and go out of my way to rip / cut / twist them off on every single bottle I buy. I don’t like having the bottle cap directly in my face while drinking, or slipping in the way of the flow whenever I just want to pour milk, and on more than one occasion, I’ve actually cut my finger OR lip on these little sh*ts (not the same type as in the picture, but baldy-made longer “bands” that leave little plastic spikes on the cap and/or band).

No idea whether I should post this in the “unpopular opinion” section instead or if other people think the same, but to me, “mildly infuriating” describes them perfectly.

  • @coffinwood@discuss.tchncs.de
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    3811 months ago

    If everyone had either stopped buying bottled beverages or cleaned up after themselves, this wouldn’t be an issue.

    Also, y’all sound a little whiny. This isn’t even a first world problem.

    • @RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      911 months ago

      stopped buying bottled beverages

      What’s the alternative in your opinion? I don’t think barrels and glasses are viable in every case. Serious question.

      • @coffinwood@discuss.tchncs.de
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        -311 months ago

        You’re coming up with a sarcastic exaggeration (barrels and glasses), followed by “serious question”. So which is it now?

        Anyway. How about refillable cups, travel mugs, returnable bottles? Stop buying bottled water if your tap water is fine. Get a soda maker if you like sparkling water or Spritzer. Clean up after yourselves, return or throw away bottles with the lid on.

        And first and foremost: stop buying packaged and bottled sh*t at every possible occasion. Things like single-use / to-go cups or bottles shouldn’t even exist.

        We all created the landfills and ocean garbage patches and now we complain about our own stupidity, unable to drink from a bottle with a lid attached to it like we’re toddlers.

        If you seriously ask me for an alternative: stop creating waste. Stop complaining about your waste. And stop complaining about regulations that try to limit waste that shouldn’t even be there. Big part of the problem stems from our own laziness and consumerism. Everyone is part of the problem, nobody wants to be a part of the solution. What did you even expect?

        • @RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          811 months ago

          I hardly want to reply for your aggressiveness. I don’t see how that’s been called for.

          But yes, I was being serious because you explicitly excluded all bottles by “bottled beverages”. So I thought, water can be replaced by tap water (I do that personally because I don’t want carry crates that are unnecessary) but what about beer, for example? I could order kegs (no sarcasm, they start at 5 liters) but can hardly take them with me.

          So, by “bottled beverages” you don’t count “returnable bottles”. Apart from that differentiation not being obvious, it didn’t occur to me because in my country almost all sold bottles are returnable, even single-use ones.

          Hope that clarifies my question. Maybe next time don’t immediately jump to conclusions and make assumptions about other people’s lifestyle.

          • @coffinwood@discuss.tchncs.de
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            111 months ago

            Sorry, it’s aggravating to see people complain about bottle lids and not seeing what the bigger problem behind is.

            We created this mess and now the least bad thing in this literal pile of garbage gets labelled ‘mildly infuriating’.

        • @cley_faye@lemmy.world
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          011 months ago

          Your solution to people wanting to buy some specific drinks is “don’t buy the thing you want, buy something else”. Hardly an answer.

          • @coffinwood@discuss.tchncs.de
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            011 months ago

            Why is it “hardly an answer”?

            Getting everything you want at any time is part of the reason why the planet’s dying. Consumerism is not sustainable. Just one example: one wants a coffee and isn’t at home. Solution today: get a single-use plasticcy paper cup of coffee with an optional packaged portion of sweetener and / or cream, a plastic stirring thingy, and a plastic lid. All that goes to waste because people were led to believe that a “paper” cup is good for the environment. It isn’t.

    • zeekaran
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      211 months ago

      I haven’t bought a plastic bottle beverage in forever*. I just get metal cans or glass bottles. Or nothing.

      *I bought a lot of PET bottled beverages in Japan but I was just visiting.

    • @RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1111 months ago

      This generalization is a problem. Assessing the whole life cycle, the carbon footprint of glass bottles is problematic and plastics is a viable alternative.

      You have to consider the significantly higher weight of glass increasing carbon emissions from transportation.

      While plastics bottles can only be reused about half as often as glass bottles, their production is far more energy-efficient (glass production is done at temps of 1400-1600 °C or 2500-3000 °F while plastics use temperatures from 160-300 °C or 320-600 °F) which also reduces carbon footprint in basically every country.

      Of course recycling has to be taken seriously and properly organized to prevent plastics just ending up in nature. But we have to balance the micro-plastics problem against climate change. We need to solve both.

      • @Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        411 months ago

        It used to be done a lot more before and some places still do it in Europe. You return the glass bottle intact, they reuse it as is. Only carbon spent is in transporting it.

        • RBG
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          411 months ago

          Well, you also have to clean them which I assume also uses energy. And they need to be fulfilling “food-grade” cleaning requirements since you want to drink out of them, so that’s probably more energy needed than a simple wash in soap.

        • @RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          -111 months ago

          Yes (I actually live in Europe), but it cannot be reused indefinitely and needs to be recycled after about 50 uses (that’s why I mentioned the whole life cycle of a bottle). Also, glass breaks.

      • @half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world
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        211 months ago

        You have to consider the significantly higher weight of glass increasing carbon emissions from transportation.

        If the transportation was electrical renewable sourced this wouldn’t be a factor.

        their production is far more energy-efficient (glass production is done at temps of 1400-1600 °C or 2500-3000 °F while plastics use temperatures from 160-300 °C or 320-600 °F)

        If manufacturing was electrical renewable sourced this wouldn’t be a factor.

        I don’t want micro plastics in my nutsack. I don’t care that it’ll be a long time before we get there. We should start getting there now. I don’t want to hear perfectionist fallacy arguments about why I should be happy to have plastics swimming around with my sperm.

        • @RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          111 months ago

          I don’t want to hear perfectionist fallacy arguments

          You mean like the ones you gave if there was a 100% renewable power grid and transportation was 100% electrical glass would be carbon neutral?

          Well, both aren’t and we are a long way from either, so that argument stands. You may care about your nutsack, as do I about my own, but climate change is the more critical problem.

  • Shimitar
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    2211 months ago

    I honestly like them. Those that “stay open”, of course… They just stay out of the way, never get lost, and works pretty nice.

    At first I disliked them, but quickly found out they are actually… Very practical. Even not considering the “green” twist, why didn’t we adopted them before?

    • @Noodle07@lemmy.world
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      1011 months ago

      As an idiot who couldn’t remember where the fuck I put down the cap 5sec ago I really like them

  • Scott
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    1811 months ago

    Stop buying single use plastic and get a reusable!

    #DeathToPlastic

    • @Azzu@lemm.ee
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      1111 months ago

      There literally is no option for it. I can only buy my milk in cartons with this cap on

      • Scott
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        211 months ago

        Then look around, more milk suppliers are using reusable glass bottles now.

      • @dubyakay@lemmy.ca
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        111 months ago

        I have two alternative options in my immediate neighbourhood in a big city in capitalist-shithole-central and I didn’t even have to try looking.

        • @Azzu@lemm.ee
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          211 months ago

          Big city, nice. I live in a small town. Could drive 30km to somewhere else, which I’m sure will not offset any savings xD

  • @L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works
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    1811 months ago

    You can rotate the bottle before taking a sip to position it such that the cap doesn’t hit your face. You can also pour liquid out of the bottle without having it run into the cap using the same rotation technique before pouring.

      • @Vinny_93@lemmy.world
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        711 months ago

        Just like not throwing the cap at some helpless plant when going to the supermarket recycling the bottle

    • Ekky
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      611 months ago

      I had quite some beef with the tethered caps in the beginning when they didn’t latch properly, but have since gotten used to them. That said:

      • Cap on top -> Funny hat for nose!
      • Cap on bottom -> Beard gets to take a moist nap.
      • Cap on sides -> Mustache also gets to take a sip!

      Obviously not much of a problem. I’d need to clean my facial hair either way if eating ice cream or other messy foods, but cap rotation might not be effective if your “face” sticks out 1-2cm from your mouth.

      One could also attempt to rotate the cap in a way to achieve quantum tunneling, but I don’t feel that I’ve achieved that level of “tethered cap proficiency” yet.

    • @redisdead@lemmy.world
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      111 months ago

      I just rip them off. It’s a straight up pointless thing designed solely to annoy people while providing no benefit whatsoever.

      People who defend that kind of shit probably believe that plastic straws were going to be the downfall of humanity.

  • @brap@lemmy.world
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    1711 months ago

    I don’t buy bottles any more because of it so I guess it’s worked better than expected.

  • qevlarr
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    1611 months ago

    The bottle cap folds out of the way. If you have it “in your face”, it sounds like a skill issue

  • @brlemworld@lemmy.world
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    1311 months ago

    They should make it so the cap doesn’t come off at all, so you have to buy a glass bottle with a metal cap that are both recyclable and won’t give you erectile disfunction.

  • @hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1211 months ago

    Guess I’ve gotten used to them. At the beginning I’d just rip the cap off anyways, but now somehow managing though I do buy this sorta bottles rather rarely nowadays.

    ANYWAYS I don’t understand why so many products come in plastic bottles, or carton box with a fucking plastic cap. Aluminum cans are great, cartons are great, glass bottles are great. Why plastic???

    • @Vinny_93@lemmy.world
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      511 months ago

      I’ve also just given in but I gotta say: what the heck is wrong with people that they can recycle the bottles but somehow throw the caps anywhere in nature? How long do you leave your brain in the microwave each day before that behaviour becomes normal? People suck.

      • @barsoap@lemm.ee
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        211 months ago

        The whole thing is about bottle caps found on beaches. I assume people just lose track of them, you might put it down on your beach towel and then something moves and a second later it’s in the sand getting buried.

  • WIZARD POPE💫
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    1111 months ago

    Just repeating my comment from the same topic a while back.

    So okay the bottle ones like this are fine

    It is these fuckers I have an issue with

    I swear if I ever see the person who designed the new milk cap I will make them choke on a fucking tetrapak.

  • @grue@lemmy.world
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    911 months ago

    baldy-made

    What’s folks’ lack of hair got to do with their bottle cap making skills?