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It is adequate.
It performs it’s function.No need for extreme consumerism & garbage production.
It’s biodegradable, renewable, and only needs to get from the manufacturer to your cabinet, where it can be replaced with heartier permanent storage.
Real environmentalists just pack the flour into their jeans pockets to avoid unnecessary paper waste
Classic Hank Scorpio
You joke but bulk stores exist where you can literally just take your own container and avoid the crappy leaky bags altogether.
Annoyingly they’re basically deli prices in my city
Real environmentalists keep a little dirt under their pillow for the dirt man, in case he comes to town.
I just put it straight into my mouth to avoid the extra cleaning and energy of cooking. Don’t you even care about the planet?
Into their jeans pocketsup their asses FTFY
Same for sugar, it’s really annoying that so many things have switched to plastic. Gram crackers, Ritz and Saltines all used to be in waxed paper when I was a kid and were fine.
Now they switch to plastic, but make sure it’s tinted to mimic the old paper versions.
Top comment is against the post, but the post has almost no downvotes. What is happening here?
Downvoting isn’t for disagreement. If you think the conversation is valuable you can upvote for visibility while disagreeing in a comment. This is important subject matter that needs to be hashed out!
There might be a desire from those that were looking for the top response to let it ride for visibility. I wish most things were as practically packaged as flour.
Edit: Can we do coffee next? I drink a lot of the stuff, and unless I roast my own, there is absolutely no environmentally friendly option. I tried roasting my own. I set off the smoke detector, upset the dogs, and made my house smell bad.
Most of the local roasters I go to sell coffee in recyclable paper bags that are technically resealable using the little bendy tie thingy. I end up just dumping it into an airtight glass jar once I open it up though.
Mine are always using plastic. I guess because they can seal it better? I feel like if I’m buying it directly to have it fresh this really doesn’t do shit, so I would be very cool with paper bags too.
No local roaster that sell directly? We have a couple that sell by weight so I can bring in my own containers.
Roast it outside or on the stovetop with the fan going if that’s not an option
Do you consider carbon neutral/negative(or at least as close as possible) to be environmentally friendly? What about sustainable agricultural practices?
If yes, I bought some coffee from Tiny Footprint coffee, which claims to be carbon negative, allegedly gets coffee from smaller local growers (you can pick the growing conditions you like, so like I got a bunch from women-owned farms), and they are actively trying to restore the areas where they source coffee. Also it’s packed in wax coated paper, and I believe you can buy bulk if you like.
It’s not cheap, and the roasts tend lighter than you’d expect (so imo a medium brews like a light), but it’s really good coffee.
And yeah, I live kinda close to a coffee roaster and it doesn’t smell great at all. If you have a garage, a cheap used oven set up out there might do the trick.
Sweet, thanks!
Yes, I seek out the most ethical option with whatever I consume. Being fair to people and kind to the environment should always come before convenience and profit. Especially for anything considered a luxury like coffee or chocolate. It would be nice if it was just on the shelf at the store since I’m already there, but it usually doesn’t work that way.
I think it’s because a lot of people’s (myself included) knee-jerk reaction is “yeah, those bags do suck”, then they look at the comments and either realize the tide is against them or end up agreeing with the points in the comments upon reflection.
General rule of thumb is that for every 100 that vote, 10 read the comments and 1 will ever post.
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*tits
(And yes, ofc it’s its, but my phone keeb is doing its best, ok, I love my HeliBoard)
OK. We’ll start using single-use plastic.
Can we get some extra micro thrown in for our balls?
Hey remember the phase like 10 years ago when shower gel companies were selling shower gel with fucking little plastic balls in it as an exfoliant?! Can you fucking believe that was a thing that really happened fml
Still happens with face cleansers.
and toothpaste in some places
I don’t know that there isn’t.
How about we start with slightly thicker paper bags that don’t leak as easily first?
They recently did that in Norway, it has improved my life by about 1%. You still get the flour explosion when opening a new bag though.
Wow dude I dont know if you know but thats actually really bad for the environment link
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Oh please god no
My bag of flour is in a Ziploc bag as we speak. As was the previous bag. The choice between environmentalism and a pantry without flour everywhere is unfortunately an easy one to make for me.
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At least it’s paper and not plastic
I already have plastic in my balls
That’s where pee is stored idiot
Can’t store as much pee as you get older and it fills with plastic. This is how getting older works.
Oh I thought it benign prostatic hyperplasia but you’re telling me my balls are turning ping pong GREAT
what is the complaint? not enough testicular microplastics?
Says someone who’s never tried to get flour out of a plastic bag before…
You roll down the bag and stuff that in the bag. It’s not that hard.
You want them to use plastic?
Then later complain about runaway plastic pollution?The same kind of circular logic applied to politics leads people to not vote, arguing that bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe and never make the connection that their chronic apathy and fickleness is what caused the mess the are apathetic about, only now with more cynicism.
Bitches about flour bags.
Turns it into a not both party are the same temper tantrum.
God I love this shithole of a website.
I’m honestly impressed by the leap
Came outta nowhere!
Dang facist paper flour bags! /s
Jesus christ, take a break… go for a walk.
And vote Biden to send trump to prison.
Where I live it’s plastic and they are still leaky.
Well you should be transferring it to a better vessel when you get home anyway. Flour really wants to be in something airtight.
I wish the shop just had each beand of flour in massive barrels and you could bring your own containers and fill them up. This would eliminate the need for packaging altogether. This should be the case for everything tbh. Soap, milk, detergents
Edit: I just realized I described eco-shops
Or old school bodegas.
The Winco near my house has exactly this. Pretty sure PCC does too for like 8x the price.
The worst possible container for flour would be a hot sauce bottle.
Hershey’s syrup bottle
Fabreeze bottle
Single serving coffee creamer cups
Naw the little spout on top unscrews from that.
The store clerk’s mouth
nope. it’d be the balls
Concrete: I will ruin your fucking life
“What ever you do, do not breath in the concrete dust. We also packaged it in a flimsy paper bag allowing all the dust spill out and enter the air.”
On one hand I get why they do it, you need a lot of bags for larger jobs and trying to put those in plastic containers is extremely wasteful and costly, but they could at least double ply the bags or something.
Concrete bags are usually two ply, but they are pretty thin. Most of the dust gets shot out the corner when you move them around, especially the ones with the tear-out corner for pouring. They do sell concrete in plastic bags though, great for wet weather but they can get kind of slick. For the bigger jobs you get a mixer truck delivery.
I buy it in paper bags and transfer it to cereal Tupperware.
If I buy flour in bulk, like more than 10kg at a time, I vacuum seal it in bags and then freeze/thaw/freeze it to kill beasties.
Beasties in the flour?
Put it in the freezer for a couple of days before storing it
Yes there are bits and pieces and whole insects in your flour. And they are impossible to remove. So there are actual legal limits as to how much insects parts can be in the package of flour.
Things like meal worms tend to come from poor home storage though. If you store your flour in an air tight container, they aren’t much of a problem. Unless it take you years to use up a bag of flour.
Won’t be long before flour companies start packaging with fabric so people can make clothes.
Again? I have a lovely quilt made by my great grandmother out of sack cloth.
Paper lets the flour breathe, releasing moisture. The grain isn’t 100% when milled and the milling process generates significant heat (mill some grain at home with a motorized mill and see). Warmth + moisture + hermetically sealed plastic smells like a nice way to grow some fungus.
Edit: isn’t 100% dry when milled.
Y’all know you can have a flour container at home that the bag goes into right?
Yah but you still gotta find a bag at the store not ripped open or completely covered in flour.
I buy flour in nice paper bags and don’t have any issues.
When I buy a larger bag, it’s still paper but it’s sewn shut. No problems either.
Maybe you’re shopping in the wrong places.
My favorite is the pallet of flour in the isle that’s got a whole bunch of ripped bags.
I just see an employee maliciously complying by ripping open bags and dumping the flour onto the pallet lol
This is exactly why I mill my own threshed wheat.
Look at this guy, he has his own mill while the rest of us have to use a mortar and pestle.
Dude at least invest in a quern, you are gunna fuck up your wrists!
If you get into homebrewing, you will likely end up owning a grain mill as well, which is also capable of turning wheat into flour
Some techbro needs to start a subscription service for flour pods delivered by drone. Insert them into your $800 flour bank, and then whenever you need flour, you can just use the app to indicate how much the machine should dispense!
edit: the app also provides AI-generated recipes, and every time you use flour you’ll automatically earn some FlourCoin cryptocurrency.
The flour will be sold in “convenient” disposable plastic containers that each hold 1 cup or 120g.
For an additional fee, drones will pick up the used pods for “recycling” which is actually shipping them to a landfill in southeast asia.
Make sure the containers have DRM so the machine can validate that they are genuine high quality Flourz™ Refill Paks before dispensing the flour. Wouldn’t want you to just, like, refill them with inferior flour from Walmart or anything.
You receive flour coins for storing flour in behalf of the flourchain, this is done with a proof-of-flour algorithm.
