hot take?
Edit: got nothing against Ubuntu, it’s Linux after all and that’s what matters 🌻 Edit2: people took this very seriously for being a shower thought…
Anyone using Ubuntu is one person less using windows. I call that a win. Everyone has to start somewhere!
Ubuntu was my training wheels 15 years ago
i still use it, from all these years.
thinking of hopping soon tho
Windows is so dominant in the market that not using it is still named after them.
I started on Debian potato and used pretty much every distribution at sone point, often three at a time. I’ve used Ubuntu for the last five years because it’s easy, stable and upto date. I know people get very minmax about their choice of os and I love that but yeah we need to remember when we say it’s ‘fine’ or ‘good enough’ that yeah it’s not race tuned or weaponised or whatever special builds people are making but ita still much much better than windows.
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Fuckin love ubuntu despite knowing it’s a cold take. How about that dogshit?
Oh snap
Im of the opinion that the distro is far less important than the Desktop Environment. Ubuntu only really “feels like Ubuntu” because of GNOME.
Most of what differentiates a distro from another is one of:
- package manager
- default packages/configurations (including the desktop environment)
- init system
The rest well… it’s Linux.
I’d argue it’s just the first two. Systemd gets a lot of hate but many don’t notice the difference between distros with or without it
Definitely, I don’t really like Ubuntu that much even though it’s my go-to. What I like is Xfce. Whether I get it via xubuntu or something else I don’t really care.
Snap tho
I’m done with Ubuntu, after it had glaringly obvious bugs in 4 seperate releases right after booting the default install.
I’m talking, system starts and the first thing you see is a crash message. Or the DE locking up. Or the software center throwing an error when you try to install a program. Or Firefox telling you it can’t restore your tabs, when you just started it for the first time. etc.
Debian used to be more of a hassle to set up, but nowadays I think it’s one of the highest quality distros available. It really just works.
Arch is also very good, and never broke on me in a decade, but what it does do is change stuff on you constantly, and I’m getting too old for that.
Ha same here. I’d try something else but I really just cba to start again on my server and desktop.
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Arch Linux user here to say… Ubuntu’s fine, man. Love all the derivatives that can take advantage of the core Ubuntu system (e.g., Mint, which I’ve installed for family members).
I love Arch. I use it all the time. I will not inflict it on any family members.
And for those of us that love Arch but don’t have time for it, EndeavourOS.
I had a much better experience with Manjaro over EndeavourOS because it supported more of my hardware, but to be fair I’m using an Asus gaming laptop. When I build my next desktop, I’m gonna try a straight Arch install.
ArcoLinux FTW
The neck beards that judge someone’s distro choice without knowing their use cases don’t represent the Linux community. Just use the best tool for the job
the problem with ubuntu is canonical, it’s a shame it’s got the reputation as “the third OS” when it’s basically the only distro that’s trying to replicate the walled gardens of microsoft and apple.
Yeah, well said.
I wouldn’t describe Microsoft as a walled garden (and Canonical even less). But maybe that term comes with degrees, and different perspectives of what’s tolerable.
Windows is less of a “walled garden”, and more like a shared garden where the other gardener is really inconsiderate and will mess up your part of the garden whenever it doesn’t align with their vision.
Only linux newbies and weirdos hate on Ubuntu. It’s a good all around operating system. Not the best choice and Canonical fails a lot but it’s still a net good.
Absolutely loving the replies to this.
This is how the extended Linux community wins for me.
Sure we talk shit for fun. The Arch BTW stuff, the Gentoo shade and Slackware side-eye. But its all in jest, ultimately.
Well done.
Thanks, have a nice day 🌻
Correct me if I’m wrong,
but I have been disliking Ubuntu because they use:- Proprietary pieces in their code
- Telemetry (spyware)
- Snap packages by default
And thats fine. You are entitled to your opinion, and your opinion is based on actual things.
As long as you don’t denigrate and insult others for using it, or try to pretend you’re the superior linux hackerman for not using it, You’re all good.
Ubuntu is great. It works.
10% of the time, sure.
I’m rly happy when ppl switch to a GNU/Linux OS, tho I would never recommend Ubuntu to anyone (anymore), since Linux Mint has a much saner no bs team that is not fucked over by a corporate
Or just plain Debian, which is wonderful as well
Love my debian server <3
Use whatever works for you. Don’t take selection advice from people that make their operating system of choice a crusade and identity.
Show Ubuntu some love. Ubuntu is the entry distro of many us. But you move on once you grow up a little.
Why would Ubuntu give off hipster vibes? It’s literally the default standard for Linux.
Because not using windows or MacOS makes you a hipster in the eyes of many people
No, Apple gives off hipster vibes to the average PC user. Apple products are basically jewelry, you choose Apple products largely to be seen with them, so that when you slide that phone out of your pocket there’s that Apple logo on it. So that your bubble is blue in iMessage. That’s hipster shit.
The average PC user has never seen Linux running on a PC and doesn’t understand what a “distro” is at all. Ubuntu and its default Gnome DE isn’t as easily mistaken for Windows as KDE or Cinnamon is, so this one might spark the conversation a little faster, and “average” Windows users tend to compare Linux users of all stripes to vegans.
WIthin the Linux community, Until maybe 5 years ago Ubuntu had the “beginner OS” stank to it. “Start here until you’re ready to edit xorg.conf like a real man.” Canonical has been shifting away from “Linux for the masses” and more toward “Leveraging synergies” to the point that I straight-up recommend against Ubuntu for daily use as their Snap ecosystem has a lot of disadvantages for desktop users especially gamers. To me, Ubuntu is a radial arm saw, the wonder do-all death trap grampa won’t shut up about that no one makes anymore. In the modern day, best practice is to forget they exist.
How is macOS hipster? Apple products are so damn popular.
Apple’s core ethos is “be hip and trendy.” They make electronics to be seen with, style before substance. That’s 200% hipster shit.
Hmm idk man, anything that has ads playing everywhere 24/7 is not hipster, hipster is unknown, but stylish etc. Hipster is more trendsetter and macOS is not a trendsetter, it’s just a trend at this point. Anything pop by definition is not hipster.
To give a pithy example: macOS is to tech hipsters what hot topic is to goth hipsters
You’re giving hipsters way more credit for originality than they have earned.
I didn’t invent the term lol, that’s how it’s been used since whenever
duhhhhh
What is the best distro for gaming on Linux?
Personally, I’ve been gaming on Arch with minimal issues for 2 years. Mostly stick to steam games for the low effort required though.
I can’t argue with @Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 's answer of "SteamOS running on the Steam Deck. Beyond that, on normal x86 gaming PC hardware? There isn’t a meaningful answer. I have perfectly good luck gaming on Linux Mint. Others prefer Arch or its forks, some prefer Nobara which is on the Fedora family tree.
What’s the best distro for gaming on Linux? The one that you keep installed.
Apple products are basically jewelry, you choose Apple products largely to be seen with them
that’s usually the take of someone who has never actually used them. I’m far from an Apple fanboy - I actually use all OS because I understood a while ago that each has its strengths.
my main machine is a Mac and the reason for that is that it is very reliable. I feel like I can count on it to take somewhere and have it just work and not get stuck in a boot loop, or locked out in the login screen (things I faced with linux distros) or stuck in a surprise update screen with Windows.
of course it’s a locked down system with little flexibility and could be expensive, but it pays off in reliability imo. when I want to do some more tricky shenanigans I have a machine with linux, and windows is for… well it’s only really worth to play games with for me hehe
tldr I wish all jewellery was that useful
I’m a big PC guy, love building my own computers every few years. But, I use MacBooks for when I’m out of the house/traveling. Because windows laptops suck and MacBooks are just good.
My daily driver used to be a MacBook Air running Linux. Apple hardware is amazing, I don’t give a shit about the logo on my laptop. I only switched to MacOS for a daily driver when I started working for a company that gave me a MacBook pro so I sold my Air which was just gathering dust.
They really are fantastic
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You sound like you play Call of Duty.
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Ubuntu was my first Linux desktop distro and I’ve been using it for 4ish years. I really liked it but I no longer feel like I can trust canonical after the whole ‘secretly install Firefox snap when installed with apt cli’ thing. It wouldn’t have even been a big deal if they just said it was only available as a snap but the execution pissed me off to the point of switching
