Google scientists have modelled a fragment of the human brain at nanoscale resolution, revealing cells with previously undiscovered features.
  • @huginn@feddit.itEnglish
    59•1 year ago

    This is exactly what I’m talking about when I argue with people who insist that an LLM is super complex and totally is a thinking machine just like us.

    It’s nowhere near the complexity of the human brain. We are several orders of magnitude more complex than the largest LLMs, and our complexity changes with each pulse of thought.

    The brain is amazing. This is such a cool image.

    • @Khanzarate@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6•1 year ago

      I think of LLMs like digital bugs, doing their thing, basically programmed.

      They’re just programmed with virtual life experience instead of a traditional programmer.

    • @AEsheron@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2•1 year ago

      I agree, but it isn’t so clear cut. Where is the cutoff on complexity required? As it stands, both our brains and most complex AI are pretty much black boxes. It’s impossible to say this system we know vanishingly little about is/isn’t dundamentally the same as this system we know vanishingly little about, just on a differentscale. The first AGI will likely still have most people saying the same things about it, “it isn’t complex enough to approach a human brain.” But it doesn’t need to equal a brain to still be intelligent.

      • @huginn@feddit.itEnglish
        3•1 year ago

        but it isn’t so clear cut

        It’s demonstrably several orders of magnitude less complex. That’s mathematically clear cut.

        Where is the cutoff on complexity required?

        Philosophical question without an answer - We do know that it’s nowhere near the complexity of the brain.

        both our brains and most complex AI are pretty much black boxes.

        There are many things we cannot directly interrogate which we can still describe.

        It’s impossible to say this system we know vanishingly little about is/isn’t dundamentally the same as this system we know vanishingly little about, just on a differentscale

        It’s entirely possible to say that because we know the fundamental structures of each, even if we don’t map the entirety of eithers complexity. We know they’re fundamentally different - Their basic behaviors are fundamentally different. That’s what fundamentals are.

        The first AGI will likely still have most people saying the same things about it, “it isn’t complex enough to approach a human brain.”

        Speculation but entirely possible. We’re nowhere near that though. There’s nothing even approaching intelligence in LLMs. We’ve never seen emergent behavior or evidence of an id or ego. There’s no ongoing thought processes, no rationality - because that’s not what an LLM is. An LLM is a static model of raw text inputs and the statistical association thereof. Any “knowledge” encoded in an LLM exists entirely in the encoding - It cannot and will not ever generate anything that wasn’t programmed into it.

        It’s possible that an LLM might represent a single, tiny, module of AGI in the future. But that module will be no more the AGI itself than you are your cerebellum.

        But it doesn’t need to equal a brain to still be intelligent.

        First thing I think we agree on.

  • @scarilog@lemmy.worldEnglish
    22•1 year ago

    The 3D map covers a volume of about one cubic millimetre, one-millionth of a whole brain, and contains roughly 57,000 cells and 150 million synapses — the connections between neurons. It incorporates a colossal 1.4 petabytes of data.

    Assuming this means the total data of the map is 1.4 petabytes. Crazy to think that mapping of the entire brain will probably happen within the next century.

    • @3ntranced@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1•1 year ago

      I mean realistically we could just be a manifested thought of some higher being who took too big a toke of some 5-D Weed

    • @jaycifer@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10•1 year ago

      Humbling? That’s going on in my head. I’m that complicated! Or at least the “hardware” I run on is. I think having a brain that beautifully complex is more empowering than anything! I wonder what new discoveries will stem from this.

      • @BearOfaTime@lemm.eeEnglish
        6•1 year ago

        Por que no los dos?

        I can see both sides:

        Super humbling because nature’s complexity can provide data storage and retrieval capacity several orders or magnitude greater than the best we can do right now.

        Also super exciting because look at what every brain on the planet is composed of, and how it functions, in a freakin’ square millimeter!

        Crazy stuff. Wild.