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@naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca to World News@lemmy.ml • 1 year ago

The Spy War: How the C.I.A. Secretly Helps Ukraine Fight Putin

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The Spy War: How the C.I.A. Secretly Helps Ukraine Fight Putin

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@naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca to World News@lemmy.ml • 1 year ago
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For more than a decade, the United States has nurtured a secret intelligence partnership with Ukraine that is now critical for both countries in countering Russia.
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  • livus
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    Ukraine needs to be helped but I hate the CIA habit of “secretly helping”, it got us everything from Saddam Hussein to Operation Condor fo the assassination of Patrice Lumumba.

    Won’t be surprised if in 20 years time we learn that it was more “secret helping” that got Ukraine invaded in the first place.

    • @ikidd@lemmy.world
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      I wouldn’t be surprised in the least if the CIA cooked up an invitation to invade Ukraine as a way of expanding NATO membership. They are completely capable of throwing away millions of civilian lives if it meets their end goals. It would hardly be the first time.

      • livus
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        It’s crazy what a law unto themselves they are. Even with little things 5-Eyes seem to really like creating chaos.

        I was reading about Shamima Begum the other day (UK girl who joined IS to be “married” to a stranger at age 15 and had her citizenship taken away) and it turns out the main guy who trafficked the bunch of 15 year olds to Syria in the first place was a 5-Eyes Canadian asset.

    • davel [he/him]
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      You don’t have to wait.

      • Reuters, Feb. ’14: Leaked audio reveals embarrassing U.S. exchange on Ukraine, EU
      • Consortium News, Jul. ’15: The Mess that Nuland Made
      • Consortium News, Apr. ’19: The Buried Maidan Massacre and Its Misrepresentation by the West
      • Jacobin, Feb. ’22: A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War
      • WSWS, Dec. ’22: Former German Chancellor Merkel admits the Minsk agreement was merely to buy time for Ukraine’s arms build-up
      • Geopolitical Economy Report, Feb. ’23: Ukraine’s Zelensky admits he sabotaged Minsk peace deal with Russia, West blocked negotiations
      • Consortium News, Oct. ’23: The Maidan Massacre, Censorship & Ukraine
      • The Grayzone, Dec. ’23: Ukrainian trial demonstrates 2014 Maidan massacre was false flag
  • @nekandro@lemmy.ml
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    Relevant:

    The Covert Operation to Back Ukrainian Independence that Haunts the CIA

  • @naturalgasbad@lemmy.caOP
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    Archive: https://archive.ph/zaSf4

  • @salvador@lemmy.world
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    They’ve just confirmed themselves that the reason that Russia started the war for has been legit and justifiable all along. As well as the words of Russia which has said this dozens of the times.

    Better off and easier for Putin, from now on.

    • @Fades@lemmy.world
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      First off, no they haven’t lmao

      And second, even if it were true, that totally justifies genocide? What about all the other countries that Putin is eyeing next?

      • @naturalgasbad@lemmy.caOP
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        Gaza, a literal genocide, documented for the world to see: DON’T WORRY GUYS NOTHING TO SEE HERE

        Ukraine, an overt military action, but for which civilian casualties have been remarkably restrained (in comparison to Gaza, in comparison to Mosul, even in comparison to Iraq): GENOCIDE GENOCIDE READ ALL ABOUT IT

        nice.

  • @naturalgasbad@lemmy.caOP
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    For more than a decade, the United States has nurtured a secret intelligence partnership with Ukraine that is now critical for both countries in countering Russia.

    Maidan Revolution: February 2014

    Today: February 2024

    Thanks for the confirmation of what we all knew already: that the US was directly involved in instigating and supporting colour revolution in Ukraine to counter Russia.

    • RubberDuck
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      Yeah, that’s not what it said. You are making a connection that is not there and repeating a putinist talking point.

    • Remmock
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      You can’t create what isn’t there. There’s a whole history of political abuse that festered. The CIA capitalized on that, they didn’t just waltz in February 2014 and say: “How about let’s have a revolution, eh guys?”

      • @nekandro@lemmy.ml
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        https://lemmy.ml/comment/8705290

        Looks like OP addressed that too

        • Skua
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          …this a link to a comment you posted, not OP, and it’s linking an article that is specifically telling the tale of the CIA’s complete failure to instigate a revolution from nothing

    • @Nudding@lemmy.world
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      They are still the bad guys.

      • @knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml
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        Yes, the US has never not been the bad guy.

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