RTO doesn’t improve company value, but does make employees miserable: Study::Data is consistent with bosses using RTO to reassert control and scapegoat workers.

  • @flop_leash_973@lemmy.world
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    501 year ago

    If most companies didn’t get so horny for “open floor” plans and/or cubicles maybe nearly everyone wouldn’t hate their fancy expensive real estate holdings so much.

    • TipRing
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      1 year ago

      The worst is “high-efficiency seating” which is just a long table where you sit elbow to elbow with your colleagues and try to work. Even cubicles are too fancy for these companies.

      • @GhostFence@lemmy.world
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        21 year ago

        If I was still working for The Man there’s no way I’d RTO. Nothing enkindles my rage faster than the idiots saying “COVID is over” when it’s more infectious than ever. Well, nothing except the ones who say COVID won’t kill you (I’ve got over a million reasons to show how that’s bullshit). There isn’t an office in the world that isn’t a de facto COVID infection party. ESPECIALLY the ones where you sit elbow to elbow. Frak that, I’m not going to die to make a living.

          • @GhostFence@lemmy.world
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            21 year ago

            And the worst part is most of those deaths were totally, tragically preventable. “Muh economy” lol you can’t produce shit with dead workers…

        • @Womble@lemmy.world
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          11 year ago

          Covid is over in the same way the flu was over in 1923, its still there, it’ll still kill people every winter but its endemic and there’s no getting rid of it and no point upending all society with all the other problems that causes in order to try and bring it down a few percent.

          • @GhostFence@lemmy.world
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            31 year ago

            It’s endemic because people had exactly that attitude. China for instance had COVID totally under control until they adopted that “no point upending blah blah” mentality. China and India locked down hard and even COMBINED they didn’t hit the death rate America had.

            Of course I’m sure Facebook Conspiracy Theory Center has the big top secret scoop on how China and India had tons of invisible people dying of COVID until they opened up, lol.

            • @Womble@lemmy.world
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              11 year ago

              China opened up because despite the intense government control and suppression they started having spontaneous demonstrations verging on riots against the restrictions which spooked the government.

              • @GhostFence@lemmy.world
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                11 year ago

                And look what that got them. A bunch of Chinese citizens who never got another chance to participate in anything because they’re dead. SMDH at a government responsible for Tiananmen Square. They got balls when it’s time to be evil but not when thousands or millions of lives are at stake.

  • @heavy@sh.itjust.works
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    471 year ago

    If you’ve ever worked at one of these big companies with fancy buildings, it’s interesting that in the end, they’re the same depressing row after row of cubicles, or “shared working spaces”

    The architecture might look neat outside and upfront, but otherwise it’s just sad and boring inside the actual working area.

    Big thing about RTO is that these places just suck to be at. Quality of workspaces have been going down for years as they try to cram more and more people into less space.

    We finally get a reckoning that a lot of people can just work from home and the economy won’t blow up, but instead, rich folks want people back in the torture zones.

  • @PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca
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    371 year ago

    From an access to information request, I was able to obtain the documents related to the decision to undo the 4-year long WFH decision. It ultimately came down to corporate real estate values. Many pensions within my country are heavily invested in corporate real estate.

    If downtowns were to lose traffic to businesses and people stopped being in office, the values would decrease over 40% and these pension funds would be on the verge of collapsing, with high political and economic consequences.

    Our entire world is built on lies. So fuck it, enjoy your life and do what you want.

    • @moistclump@lemmy.world
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      131 year ago

      You requested that from a company or government? I don’t doubt it’s true I’m just surprised that they would be able to coordinate something like that or that massive businesses would do something in the best interest of pensions?

      I think occums razor here is just that companies want to pay people off without the expense. That’s the thing that has more of an immediate impact on the companies and their bottom lines.

    • @Kingofthezyx@lemm.ee
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      121 year ago

      From an access to information request, I was able to obtain the documents related to the decision to undo the 4-year long WFH decision.

      What does this even mean? Information request to who? Are you sure you didn’t just read it in one of the hundreds of reddit or lemmy comments about this?

  • @Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca
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    331 year ago

    I’m leaving my management job in the city next month to move north 6 hours away and live in a small town with a mortgage that will be half as much for an acre instead of a townhouse with no grass. I wrote a proposal to do a order entry job for less money but work from home but my boss wants everyone in order entry to work in the office. So they chose to lose 9 years of company and product knowledge because they don’t want me to work from home in case people who have been there less time might want to work from home too.

  • @Unreliable@lemmy.ml
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    RTO for the company I work for is under the guise of “culture, vibrance, and collaborative work”, but really it’s that they own a ton of office space/buildings and invest in said retail office space.

    It also works as a “lay off” without actually firing people because they know people will leave for other jobs that don’t have forced RTO.

    • @GhostFence@lemmy.world
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      61 year ago

      There’s no way kickbacks from oil companies due to resumption of long commutes isn’t a part of this. They even said the local businessesparasites that feed onprofit from employees needing to buy food during lunch benefit from this.

    • @corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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      51 year ago

      they know people will leave for other jobs with forced RTO.

      But, as per the Dead Sea Effect, it’s never the people they should want to shed. The earliest to depart are the most mobile, and they’re mobile because they’re talented, effective and marketable. This evaporation proceeds until nothing but salt remains.

  • @hardcoreufo@lemmy.world
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    21 year ago

    This was so confusing. We are doing RTO at work but it means rotating time off not return to office. In general people are pretty happy here to get some extra vacation even if it’s unpaid (we can claim unemployment so it’s not that big of a hit). It’s manufacturing so there’s never been work from home except some management types during peak COVID.

  • @LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Misery and perpetual exhaustion drives desperation and suppresses political action and participation and capitalism relies on that