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@boem@lemmy.world to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish • 1 year ago

America Is Missing Out on the Best Electric Cars: Whatever kind of EV you might want, chances are China has it.

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America Is Missing Out on the Best Electric Cars: Whatever kind of EV you might want, chances are China has it.

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  • halfwaythere
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    72•1 year ago

    Probably not a well received opinion but the amount of China promoting drivel that goes on here in lemmy is astounding.

    • @slaacaa@lemmy.world
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      9•1 year ago

      Agree. Tankies are on the loose, and not just on their own servers

    • @nepali@lemmy.ml
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      deleted by creator

      • @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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        4•1 year ago

        They were just complaining about how much pro-China stuff is posted here and you’re replying with this lol

  • @CyberDine@lemmy.world
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    32•1 year ago

    Like most Chinese products I wouldn’t trust their quality or their customer support, and would expect the thing to spy on me 24/7.

    • JackGreenEarth
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      29•1 year ago

      About the privacy issues…

      https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/articles/its-official-cars-are-the-worst-product-category-we-have-ever-reviewed-for-privacy/

      • /home/pineapplelover
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        4•1 year ago

        I plan to rip out the power to internet in any future car I get. Cars shouldn’t have to connect to the internet

    • @dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de
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      18•1 year ago

      You do realise that anything made in the USA or even sold to be used in the western world has the CIA sucking it all up.

      Like sure China are gonna spy but let’s not pretend the USA, UK, Australia, and Israel ain’t spying on us all.

    • @maness300@lemmy.world
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      -10•1 year ago

      In my experience, Chinese products are way better and more affordable than American ones.

      Buying American is just a scam to fool people with more money than sense.

      Mark Twain was right.

      • @hightrix@lemmy.world
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        4•1 year ago

        You must not use Amazon.

        • @maness300@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          I was specifically thinking about products I got on Amazon.

          Headphones, especially. It really cemented in my mind that most “audiophiles” are just idiots with more money than sense trying to fit in with the same.

      • @ramenshaman@lemmy.world
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        2•1 year ago

        In my experience, you’re wrong.

        • @maness300@lemmy.world
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          0•1 year ago

          That’s fine.

          Spend your money how you want.

          • @ramenshaman@lemmy.world
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            2•1 year ago

            I will continue to spend my money irresponsibly.

            • @maness300@lemmy.world
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              0•1 year ago

              You’re not alone.

              • @ramenshaman@lemmy.world
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                1•1 year ago

                In my experience, you’re right.

  • 🦄🦄🦄
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    29•1 year ago

    I want a car without spyware.

    • @WanderingVentra@lemm.ee
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      Even American cars have spyware. Not sure what your choice is there. At this point, I’ll settle for cars with physical buttons for climate and other commonly used controls.

      • @Narauko@lemmy.world
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        8•1 year ago

        Even American cats have spyware.

        And they have since the 1960’s: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_Kitty

        • @WanderingVentra@lemm.ee
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          3•1 year ago

          That typo was totally worth learning about this

  • @Xatix@lemmy.world
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    25•1 year ago

    I‘m just waiting on the release of the german X-Bus. A modular 600kg vehicle that counts as a quad and can be used as a bus/transporter/pickup/camper and recharges 30-50km of range a day through solar energy on the roof for under 20k€ is exactly what I want from an EV. I don’t need a 50k price tag with shiny smart features.

    • @Mr_Blott@lemmy.world
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      7•1 year ago

      I’ve just been looking at those. I can’t help but think of the old adage, if it seems too good to be true, it probably is

      • @weew@lemmy.ca
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        2•1 year ago

        it basically falls under the vehicle classification of tricycles and golf carts, so the safety standards are, shall we say, more lenient

    • @weew@lemmy.ca
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      I would prefer better crashworthiness though

      • @Xatix@lemmy.world
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        1•1 year ago

        I hope they do better than expected, sadly the lower standards also the downside of their classification. But I think they commited to doing crash tests and also build in ESP by defaultc so at least the basics will be there.

  • Semi-Hemi-Demigod
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    25•1 year ago

    I want a small, fun roadster. Or a hot hatch. Or a sport wagon. And I didn’t see one listed.

    • @Kanzar@lemmy.world
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      8•1 year ago

      An e-civic would be phenomenal…

      • Semi-Hemi-Demigod
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        Tweak the motors to simulate vtech!

        • @GamingChairModel@lemmy.world
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          2•1 year ago

          Toyota had a concept EV that simulates a manual transmission (including “stalling,” coasting, and “engine braking”), that it showed off last year to some journalists. People who drove it say it’s a ton of fun.

    • @Plopp@lemmy.world
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      4•1 year ago

      If someone makes an electric equivalent to the Pontiac Fiero I’m getting a drivers license. Small, cheap, fun.

      • Semi-Hemi-Demigod
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        3•1 year ago

        Hell yeah. Or an MR2. Or an S2000.

        • @JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world
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          2•1 year ago

          Carice? Harks back to the small British sports car.

          • Semi-Hemi-Demigod
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            1•1 year ago

            Man, if some Chinese company rebooted MG I’d be so happy

            • Deceptichum
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              MGs are still around, made in China but I see a lot of them on the roads here in Australia.

              • Semi-Hemi-Demigod
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                We’re already halfway there! I’m gonna order my girlfriend a long silk scarf now so we’re ready

  • @ramenshaman@lemmy.world
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    “Whatever kind of EV you might want, chances are China has it.”

    proceeds to describe a car that’s slower and has less range than my e-bike

    Kinda curious what the other options are, I got hit with a paywall.

    I want an Aptera. Any solar cars available in China? A Telo would be sweet but they’re super early on.

  • @lemmyingly@lemm.ee
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    I’ve recently driven a brand new 2023/2024 Maxus T90EV. It had 15 miles on the clock when I drove it. These are the problems I experienced with it and these aren’t even touching on my preferences like I thought the seats were uncomfortable, or that regenerative braking is quite aggressive and can’t be changed. So I doubt China EVs are going to take over, not in 2024 at least.

    • Auto lights didn’t work
    • Auto wipers didn’t work
    • Intermittent wipers didn’t work
    • Rear view camera was really poor quality
    • Infotainment system crashed, where I had to walk away from the vehicle with it still in its crashed state. At some point it finally turned off and worked again on the next drive
    • Bluetooth audio kept crashing
    • Infotainment system is really basic
    • Shudders when driving on the factory set speed limiter
    • No driving aids like cruise control or driver defined speed limiter
    • @maness300@lemmy.world
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      -19•1 year ago

      I feel bad for everyone who takes your word at face value.

      Anyone can type anything on the internet. Just keep that in mind, folks.

      • @lemmyingly@lemm.ee
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        It’s my honest experience. Why do you speak negatively towards me?

        Proof: www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCi1q-m2TFk

      • @TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee
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        4•1 year ago

        Kind of a dumbass comment there my guy

        • @maness300@lemmy.world
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          -4•1 year ago

          Lol, found the guy who believes everything he reads on the internet.

          • @lemmyingly@lemm.ee
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            2•1 year ago

            You’re clearly being a troll.

            • @maness300@lemmy.world
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              -2•1 year ago

              Uhh, no.

      • @Nommer@sh.itjust.works
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        0•1 year ago

        Yikes

  • @AtmaJnana@lemmy.world
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    19•1 year ago

    “Best”?

    [X] Doubt

  • @slaacaa@lemmy.world
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    18•1 year ago

    The amount of Chinese propaganda around EVs is astounding

    • Luden [comrade/them]
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      deleted by creator

      • @0ops@lemm.ee
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        1•1 year ago

        https://www.theautopian.com/author/jtorchinsky/

  • @dogslayeggs@lemmy.world
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    Do they have an electric truck that isn’t the size of a small house?

    • Deceptichum
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      https://youtu.be/yRG0Wai4sR0?si=QlX6MEx5KMlv27jS

      $2k from Alibaba.

      • Cylusthevirus
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        Well … then 1.5k for the good battery and other options and like … another 5k for shipping related expenses. That blew my mind how expensive it was to import.

        And you get a truck 3 dudes can pull backwards with a top speed of like 36mph. It’s basically a very robust power wheels.

        • ivanafterall
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          Man, this is the Power Wheels I needed as a chunky kid.

        • @spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works
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          Those expensive shipping release fees are what’s stopping people from importing EVs from China.

  • @BigPotato@lemmy.world
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    12•1 year ago

    I would like an electric 2004 Dodge Neon…

    Does China have that? Not like in build quality, I know they’re trash, just that exact car.

    • Zorque
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      Considering how much respect China has for western intellectual property… probably. Somewhere.

  • @buzz86us@lemmy.world
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    12•1 year ago

    I want a nice cheap basic car without all the nonsense, and 250 miles of range plus battery swap. Neta V fits the bill

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    I went to one of the links and some of their cars had a 404 error, so I’m guessing that’s what their repairability and warranty would be like in the states.

  • @TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee
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    They also have fields of decaying vehicles that were built solely to take advantage of the subsidies

    • Neon 🏳️‍🌈🇺🇦🇪🇺🏳️‍⚧️🇹🇼🇮🇱🏳️‍🌈
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      idk why you’re being downvoted, you’re absolutely right lol

      Chinas EVs are not built to standard and are used in majority to grab cheat the Central Government for subsidies

  • ivanafterall
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    I want a free one that prints money.

    • @jackalope@lemmy.ml
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      Considering the subsidies from the cpc, they all kinda do lol

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