Oh this is about Israel. I thought it was about Ukraine and I was very confused
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Well, I mean, Hamas is funded by Iran. Iran and Russia are good buddies. So…
I saw a video of an Israel official on RT blaming Russia and vowing revenge. I also saw some analysis that some of the weapons Hamas had were from North Korea and Russia would’ve had to have helped get the weapons there. There is all kinds of disinformation going on about the Israel war, so I take everything with a grain of salt.
Calling for a stop to an ethnic cleansing campaign is not pro Russia. If anything, Israel’s behavior has greatly increased the threat of harm to its civilians, and its image on the world stage may never recover. Same for the U.S. ever trying to claim moral superiority.
If I was living in Gaza right now, I’d be transforming myself into a human revenge machine. Even if nobody I knew personally had been killed. Just seeing my neighbors being slaughtered, I’d be quietly and coldly calculating.
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An FSB time traveler going into the past several decades to start kicking Palestinians out of their homes and restricting their general access.
Whoa dude Russia could be behind ALL CRIME EVER IN HISTORY
Got any more big brain takes to share?
That has been Russia’s game for more than a decade now: stoke existing tensions. Brexit, political polarization in the USA and internal division in nearly all European countries.
Bringing the already uneasy situation between Israel/Palestine to a boiling point in order to distract from Russia’s war in Ukraine is not a big stretch.
R O F L
ITT: People who know nothing about the demographics of Israel or the history of Russia providing Palestine with aid.
Crack a book ya’ll
Prove to us that you learned something from that book.
In your own words, what is it about the demographics of Israel or the history of Russian aid to Palestine, that would alter people’s opinions in this context if they knew it?
I don’t know how making an almost pedestrian (in international relations terms) idea sound incredulous and fantastical is supposed to refute that idea, but it certainly makes you come across as, shall we say, suspiciously out of touch.
“oh right, and you’re just going to beam me that message over the “airwaves” like some kind of “electronic mail”? Haha try pulling the other one, it has bells on.”
Well gosh I wouldn’t want to come across as pedestrian. That’s clearly your turf, so humbly excuse any perceived intrusion.
A terminally online existence sure makes for some USDA choice paranoia.
Blink twice if the time travelling Russians are in your room.
When you set up the false premise that Russia would have had to have planned this long ago, as opposed to the stultifyingly obvious possibility that they are simply stoking and taking advantage of a decades-long situation, then of course this seems like tinfoil hat territory.
But if you do choose to occupy the same reality as the rest of us (even just for a few brief moments) wherein Israel and Palestine have been at odds since Israel was dropped in Palestine, and wherein Russia has a long history (like most other superpowers, my home country included) of meddling in the affairs of other countries to their own strategic advantage, then, well, this all seems pretty straightforward.
But you aren’t engaging with my actual words before lazily dismissing me as “terminally online” (whatever you think that means), and I’m not sure you’re even reading them. Case in point - you are reacting as if I’m calling you pedestrian, when I’m clearly calling the concept of one nation meddling in the affairs of another nation almost pedestrian.
But I’m done wasting words on someone who doesn’t know what to do with them - or who intentionally misuses them. Good night.
Sorry I don’t speak Chat GPT.
Try again.
My advice would be read more. Not for explicit knowledge, but for refinement of your overall verbal model. Fiction is best. Why not read all the Stephen King books? He’s written like 50 and they’re fun.
Hey pal, if you spoke to me in real life the way you speak to people online, I’d slap the shit out of you.
No comment on the topic of your conversations but you’re sure a smarmy little fucker. Stop that shit. The internet’s already chalked full of dick heads.
Do you feel like a big boy saying that from behind your keyboard?
Go back to Reddit, you fit in there.
Exactly. I swear, at this point Lemmy.world is just another Reddit propaganda zealot parade. From what was once the leader of the idea of enlightenment, the US now is like an alternate dimension where the average IQ is just 20 points lower. And it shows here, it really does. War is peace and the cold war is back on, yeehaw boys 🎉
Anti Zionism is propaganda now LOL okay dude. And if you really want peace then you would want this ethnic cleansing by Israel to end.
Sorry, I see now how my comment wasn’t clear. I meant it the other way around, and was trying to agree with snipvoid. Like the poster in my window indicates, I very much align with anti zionism.
Oh okay no worries it happens
Yeah, it’s fucking sad. I’ve mostly dropped out because of it.
Dropping out makes it worse.
Narrow your focus for sure but please do not drop out.
Well I’m still here and posting am I? But I ain’t got the energy to pick fights everyday, multiple times a day.
It’s all orchestrated by big, bad (simultaneously weak, cowardly) Russia - never mind the fact that Israel and Russia are pals. As long as it can sow fear and confusion in the population to hinder a popular peace movement, anything goes.
It only makes sense. Russia financing start of another conflict that takes attention away from Ukraine and has 110% certainty of making Jews (Zelenskyy) look bad because of the batshit cracy fascist Israeli government, and USA look bad because their history in middle east and they’d probably get involved directly in some way again (happening right now). Oh also Hamas attacked on Putin’s birthday or some shit
Call me conspiracy theorist but it seems so damn obvious
If you’re curious as to how they are related, it’s because of over-accumulation of capital.
It is not like Israel needs any help, and I don’t think that we are all incapable of following two different events.
If we are talking about theories, it can also be that west created it so that people’s attention goes away of Ukraine since it is just a big fiasco.
Attention is actually a limited resource
Same
Jeffries is toeing the same line.
There is a huge generational divide in the democratic party between those who benefit from the US police state and those who are suffering from it.
This seems to map very cleanly onto whether people support the Gaza genocide.
Jim Jeffries? I knew that cunt was up to no good!
What has she done?
What ceasefire? Which one, of the numerous conflicts now on Earth, is referred to here?
Pretty sure it’s in reference to this past weekend she got approached by someone demanding a ceasefire, and Pelosi’s response was for that person to go back to China because they are also genociding Uygurs. She later claimed she thought the reporter was a Russian plant or some unhinged bs.
So, not even the usual ceasefire bad because right to defend. Just ceasefire bad because whataboutism.
The news source of “menzmag” is reporting about her freak out on the pro Palestinian protesters on her driveway this weekend.
This still does not answer which ceasefire you’re referring to. Could refer to Ukraine, for example.
Palestine
Pelosi said that pro-Palestine protestors should be investigated by the FBI for ties with Russia
Allow me to explain what they were going for: demoncrats bad, orange fan mad
Ah yes because anyone that doesn’t like democrats must be republican!
Libs are such a joke, but you don’t even understand the punchline.
Oof, wildly off the mark there, but go off
What’s the mark, do tell.
Oh no, I don’t think so. Please continue your baseless guessing game.
I notice no one answered the question in the root comment. Care to give it your best shot?
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So the next election cycle is when it will be OK to criticize democrats? Promise?
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It’s a meme about the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people and Russian interference becoming a political tool like McCarthyism.
Meanwhile does more shady stock trades while everyone is looking the other way
Let’s hope the trial is handled swiftly before the The Hague invasion act is activated.
She told activists to ‘Go back to China where your headquarters is’ which uh. Is interesting to say the least.
I’ve said it before: Every Democrat I know in real life seems like an empathetic person, so it’s astonishing they choose these ghouls to represent them.
My running theory from observing from across the Atlantic is that participating in American politics is mentally destructive. You are confronted by two frankly terrible options, so you either accept you live in an undemocratic country or you have to convince yourself that one of the parties is actually good. No matter what choice you make, it breaks something in you.
Maybe this is what leads to so much cultlike behavior and unquestioned loyalty to one party or the other. And if you’re anywhere outside these parties, or you so much as criticize a sitting politician, then you’re hated from all sides and accused of being a Russian bot, which is especially disappointing when you’re someone who does hold your nose and vote blue, but that’s not good enough – you have to fully toe the line, or else it’s perceived as interfering with a campaign, a campaign which never ends.
We’re not really a democracy, are we?
#WashingtonWasRight
#ButAlsoHeWasKindOfAnAssInOtherWays
#ButRightAboutThis
Also, I love your username. I have two shiba inu.
The propagandists aren’t even trying to pretend here lol.
Right? I can’t believe this blatant disinformation is getting upvoted. She said it was Chinese propaganda smh.
She also said it was Russian propaganda that should be investigated by the FBI in an interview on CNN.
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No, she literally replied to a protester who asked her if she would call for a ceasefire fire, and I quote, “Go back to China where your headquarters are”. Stop defending people who are complicit of genocide (an actual crime btw).
Russia benefits from this conflict. If the US wasn’t supplying Israel with weapons, they would give it to Ukraine.
She didn’t call the protesters violent
She’s right, but in this rare situation the Kremlin’s propaganda is pushing for something good.
She’s right that some of the vocal criticism of Biden over Gaza is probably pushed by Russia. The Kremlin’s propaganda is pushing for chaos and dissent in US politics. It’s not because they care about Gaza.
She is wrong complaining about Russia interference of domestic and international affairs since she takes money from Israeli loppyist to shape the foreign affairs policies disregarding the good of tax payers.
She is also never pushed back against US government support in other countries such as meddling in China bussinus, went to Taiwan, meddling in Russian bussinus, meddling in Iran bussinus, and many many other countries that doesn’t get coverage.
She want to throw rocks at people and complain when someone throw a rock back.
Exactly, minus “probably.”
