I did a search from shitjustworks for “reddit die” and did not find https://lemmy.world/c/watchredditdie so I made https://sh.itjust.works/c/watchredditdie (unnecessarily). This should really not happen. When someone makes a community there should be a “ping” sent out to notify all other federated instances.
And from what I know, if I post to !sh.itjust.works/c/watchredditdie only users on sh.itjust.works will see the posts until other people from other instances randomly come across it somehow and subscribe? This really needs to be improved.
The devs actually talked about this in the AMA from a couple of days ago. Sounds like the current plan is to have all federating servers send their entire list of communities to each other on a regular basis.
The other thing that I think is worth mentioning is Lemmy Community Boost which is basically a bot that serves the same purpose.
Thanks for reminding me that there was an AMA I forgot about lol.
Great news.
A good implementation would be a warning at the creation of a community. Lemmy looks if a community already exist on the instances and display them. It would be on top of a better search.
Yeah there’s a tool called LCB (Lemmy Community Boost but it’s not a perfect solution to this issue. A good idea would be to have something like that built right into Lemmy, where instances can have an internal account that will look for and subscribe to communities which opt into discovery.
Soemthing like how the join-lemmy site works where it finds instances, but for communities. Obviously this would need to be enabled and allowed by instance moderators, smaller instances and personal ones with limited space probably don’t want to pull from every community in the fediverse, but for larger ones, such a feature would be greatly beneficial.
Yes. Lemmy is deep in “good enough” territory. It mostly works for most people, much of the time. But if you stray outside of the main use cases, you’re gonna be disappointed.
Tip is to feature it on the !newcommunities@lemmy.world community, crosspost the first few posts from there to more popular communities, and be sure to link various discussion threads from that community in other communities. Get people interested enough to Subscribe then posts will spread to that instance.
This inconvenience is partly by design in Lemmy. People that start up a new server don’t want to have ALL the content across the Fediverse rush through and explode their PC or hosted VM. Or a troll that makes a new community, spams a bunch of posts or puts up illegal material in a new community can easily be caught in the home instance before it spreads to others.
Isn’t it mostly text? Why would that be a heavy burden? Isn’t there an option to disable local hosting of images & videos?
Lemmy was able to be hosted on 1GB RAM machines, which may still work but less likely to be a good experience if you have too many instances in the federation queue even with just text. With images on, the biggest problem is the storage needs grew a lot.
Sharing/publishing lists of communities on a server to allow for automated subscribing seems like a good interim measure.
The number of subscribers being completely different depending on which instance you search from is really weird/bad too IMO.
I don’t think it’s bad thing that content is hidden.
To me, it’s comforting to think of cyberspace as being kind of like the real world. And in the real world, there’s distance. You can be near or far from things. You can travel, and the longer you travel the further you go. Things percolate through at a steady pace, and so everything’s not perfectly mixed but there are different zones with things going on.
When we had cyberspace shown to us in Snow Crash or Disclosure or NetRunner, it was always a space. Like a second world you could go live a life in.
I know it’s a loose connection, but I like how, in order to discover more instances I might have to travel to neighboring instances and then from there to others. Like each user you hear from has an instance in their username. That’s a way to discover instances.
And having redundant communities? That’s a great idea. Then you get that separation and divergent/recombinant evolution in those communities too.
Just a thought. As we add features, and remove constraints, from lemmy, we make serious architectural choices that will affect the way it feels and acts as space for communities to grow in.
We call it a Fediverse not a Fedidatabase. A ‘verse is a place you go through, at a speed, taking time. A ‘verse is a vast and wide place.
You can browse by instance on swift.
What is that?
I really don’t know how this is supposed to catch on, to be honest.
There is a design conflict between on the one hand having the capability to locate and reach all instances of a thing, and on the other hand having those things be freely available to people.
This is, incidentally, why pro-2A people are so opposed to the idea of a gun registry.
I’m not understanding what the conflict is between being able to locate a thing and that thing being available for use.
I didn’t say able to locate I said there being a list. But in that case being able to locate is a better term. And I didn’t say available I said freely available, which is an important distinction.
If a thing’s existence always includes a route to finding it, that constrains its existence. Barriers in adding to the list, or in whatever finding mechanism you use, become barriers to the creation of an instance of that thing.
That’s one problem. There are others too, but if we can’t agree on this one then we’ve no hope of discussing the others.
I didn’t say able to locate I said there being a list.
Are you confusing comments?
I see this in the referred comment:
having the capability to locate
While the word “list” does not appear.
But mostly I think we should try to read the message, not focus on single words.
Okay. Anything else?
Like, do you need me to break down what happened there for you? Are you asking whether I made a mistake because you don’t know, or … for some other reason?
Yes. I made a mistake. I think it’s weird you’re behaving as if you need me to confirm that, but sure. I thought I said “list”, and didn’t. Oops. Fortunately for me I never lie and hence it didn’t matter if I remembered what I said because I immediately recognized that “locate” is better terminology despite thinking it was your wording not mine so … are we good on that?
What were you gonna say in terms of responding to the message?
Why is it that an instance decides for me which instances I can see? Why is it that mods are deciding for me which comments are censored?
Because you’re too lazy to make your own instance.
Speak for yourself.
Fuck are you talking about? You’re on Lemmy.world, crying about Lemmy.world instance mods.
You can hop to another instance whenever you want. Lemm.ee has a very neutral defederation policy, if that’s you’re concern move there. If you want total control over federation, spin up your own instance
Otherwise stop whining
Get over yourself. I’m complaining about the format of the software, not this specific instance, though this instance IS shit.
I think moderation removals should only censor for the people subscribed to that moderator. Stuff that needs removed for reasons like people using an instance to dump data or illegal content and whatnot should be admin territory.
If I make my own instance, I’m still not seeing what moderators have removed elsewhere. It’s removed.
Demands software they didn’t develop and servers they don’t run abide by their self-proclaimed criteria
Tells others to “get over yourself”
Removed by mod
