A U.K. woman was photographed standing in a mirror where her reflections didn’t match, but not because of a glitch in the Matrix. Instead, it’s a simple iPhone computational photography mistake.

  • e0qdk
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    1732 years ago

    This story may be amusing, but it’s actually a serious issue if Apple is doing this and people are not aware of it because cellphone imagery is used in things like court cases. Relative positions of people in a scene really fucking matter in those kinds of situations. Someone’s photo of a crime could be dismissed or discredited using this exact news story as an example – or worse, someone could be wrongly convicted because the composite produced a misleading representation of the scene.

    • falkerie71
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      392 years ago

      I see your point, though I wouldn’t put it that far. It’s an edge case that has to happen in a very short duration.
      Similar effects can be acheived with traditional cameras with rolling shutter.
      If you’re only concerned of relative positions of different people during a time frame, I don’t think you need to be that worried. Being aware of it is enough.

      • @Odelay42@lemmy.world
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        522 years ago

        I don’t think that’s what’s happening. I think Apple is “filming” over the course of the seconds you have the camera open, and uses the press of the shutter button to select a specific shit from the hundreds of frames that have been taken as video. Then, some algorithm appears to be assembling different portions of those shots into one “best” shot.

        It’s not just a mechanical shutter effect.

        • falkerie71
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          92 years ago

          I’m aware of the differences. I’m just pointing out that similar phenomenon and discussions have been made since rolling shutter artifacts have been a thing. It still only takes milliseconds for an iPhone to finish taking it’s plethora of photos to composite. For the majority of forensic use cases, it’s a non issue imo. People don’t move that quick to change relative positions substantially irl.

          • @Odelay42@lemmy.world
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            112 years ago

            Did you look at the example in the article? It’s clearly not milliseconds. It’s several whole seconds.

            • falkerie71
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              You don’t need a few whole seconds to put an arm down.

              Edit: I should rephrase. I don’t think computational photography algorithms would risk compositing photos that are whole seconds apart. In well lit environments, one photo only needs 1/100 seconds or less to expose properly. Using photos that are temporally too far apart risk objects moving too much in the frame, and thus fail to composite.

              • @Odelay42@lemmy.world
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                42 years ago

                There’s three different arm positions in a single picture. That doesn’t happen in the blink of an eye.

                The camera is taking many frames over a relatively long time to do this.

                This is nothing at all like rolling shutter, and it’s very obvious from looking at the example in the article.

                • @LifeInOregon@lemmy.world
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                  72 years ago

                  Those arm positions occur over the course of a fluid motion in a single second. How long does it take for you to drop your hands to your side or raise them to clasped from the side? It doesn’t take me more than about half a second as a deliberate movement.

                • @llii@feddit.de
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                  62 years ago

                  It takes you several seconds to move your arm? I hope you don’t do manual work.

                  Also did you use the iOS camera app before? You can see how long it takes for the iPhone to take multiple shots for the always-on hdr feature, and it isn’t several seconds.

                • Decoy321
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                  32 years ago

                  There’s three different arm positions in a single picture. That doesn’t happen in the blink of an eye.

                  It’s a lot faster than you might be expecting. I found it helps to visualize it in person. Go to a mirror and start with your hands together like in the right side mirror. Now let your arms down naturally, to the position in the left side mirror. If you don’t move your arms at the same exact time, one elbow will still be parallel to the floor while the other elbow has extended already, just like in the middle position.

                  Thus, we can tell that the camera compiled the image from right to left.

                • falkerie71
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                  22 years ago

                  I can also see the three arm positions being a single motion, just in three different time frames. If it really takes seconds to complete a composite, then it should also be very easy to reproduce, and not something so rare it makes it into the news. If I still can’t convince you, I guess we agree to disagree then.

                  • @NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world
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                    12 years ago

                    then it should also be very easy to reproduce, and not something so rare it makes it into the news.

                    And it is, according to the article. Just in case you haven’t read.

                    It has made headlines not because it’s rare, but because it’s outrageous. Just in case you haven’t noticed.

    • @Jarix@lemmy.world
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      72 years ago

      This isn’t an issue at all it’s a bullshit headline. And it worked.

      This is the result of shooting in panorama mode.

      In other news, the sky is blue