Almost 90 bombs were dropped in one region in just 24 hours.

Russia unleashed an unprecedented bombardment in southern Ukraine overnight in what local officials described as a “massive attack” in the conflict which has continued to rage even as the international community’s attention has moved to the war between Israel and Hamas in Gaza.

The Ukrainian Internal Affairs Ministry on Monday morning said Russia dropped at least “87 aerial bombs on populated areas of the Kherson region - the largest number for all time.” At least eight people were also injured in other Russian strikes carried out in the Odessa region further to the west on Sunday night.

  • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    802 years ago

    If we’d shift funds from Israel (who are committing genocide) to Ukraine (who are defending themselves) it helps Palestine and hurts Russia too.

    Is a win/win.

    Imagine if Ukraine had the iron dome America bought Israel.

    • Flying Squid
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      Israel doesn’t actually need American money, unfortunately. Sure, it helps them, but they can continue this campaign for a long time without a dollar from the U.S. Ukraine, on the other hand, is a much more desperate situation. I’m not saying that means we shouldn’t shift funds from Israel to Ukraine, because I agree we should do that, but it will likely not help Palestinians much.

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      So you want Israel to be bombed even more and everyone there killed? Because that’s the plan of Palestine and Lebanon (which is genocide btw). And would happen if they didn’t have the iron dome.

      • @Aux@lemmy.world
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        Israel, just like Russia, can simply stop occupying territories which don’t belong to them and stop a genocide. And no one will be killed. Stop apologizing the genocide, ok?

        • @ParsnipWitch@feddit.de
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          32 years ago

          Hamas attacked an area that did not belong to Palestine. And the areas they are constantly shooting rockets at are also not the areas that Israel took unrightfully. The idea that Palestine is only defending and not attacking doesn’t fit their agenda or their behaviour in the past and now.

    • @BB69@lemmy.world
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      Imagine all the dead Jews that would cause too.

      Palestine isn’t a nation of saints.

      • TWeaK
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        Israel assassinates journalists and sells weapons grade hacking technology to oppressive regimes.

        Also, until Israel started their ground assault Jews hadn’t really been dying since 7 October. Almost all deaths since then have been Palestinian.

    • @YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world
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      There is a lot of misinformation in your comment.

      The United States didn’t fund Israel’s iron dome system.

      There isn’t a genocide (race / tribe killing) in Gaza. That’s a population transfer or eviction of lands.

      Ukraine and the United States are working together to implement a air defense system. A likely defense treaty and a 100 year lease on military bases in exchange for infrastructure rebuilding is on the table.

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        There isn’t a genocide (race / tribe killing) in Gaza

        Genocide isn’t just killing…

        In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

        Killing members of the group;

        Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

        Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

        Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

        Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

        https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml

        And even if that was just indiscriminate killing based on race/ethnicity, the UN is already saying what Israel is doing amounts to that

        https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/11/gaza-running-out-time-un-experts-warn-demanding-ceasefire-prevent-genocide

        Your opinion is your opinion.

        But what is/isn’t a genocide is clearly defined in the Geneva convention. And even if you’re definition was correct, the UN disagrees with you about Israel meeting that definition.

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          The UN’s humans rights body is heavily biased against Israel. And in general not a neutral party as you seem to think.

          Of the 193 countries which make up the UN, the majority (133) are non-democratic states. 48 are countries belonging to the OIC (Organisation of Islamic Cooperation).

          Of the 280 human rights condemnations the UN has found world wide between 2006 and 2023, 103 where in Israel. They found none in, for example, China, Pakistan or Saudi Arabia. They also didn’t cry genocide during the genocide in Rwanda.

          I 100 % believe Israel commits war crimes against Palestine. But I do not believe that Israel alone is responsible for almost 40 % of all human rights violations world wide since 2006.

          • @jarfil@lemmy.world
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            32 years ago

            Some wars are about who gets control over some resources, or who will be collecting the taxes, without trying to wipe out the other side.

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                If that was true, then I’m sure there’s lots of statements from human rights organizations world wide clarifying how it’s wrong.

                Do you mind linking one?

                Quick edit:

                Also, that doesn’t mean Israel isn’t breaking the Geneva Convention…

                In fact, it seems to be admission that they are…

                • @YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world
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                  It will take a bit to pull it from the 1948 archive but Raphael Lemkin used it because it was a loaded word to mean killing millions of people.

                  The actual UN definition added any transfer of children from one ethnic group to another in the last week of negotiations in 1948. Even by that definition it doesn’t meet the UN term with what is happening in Gaza.

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                    So to clarify, you agree that Israel is violating the Geneva Convention?

                    Your issue is just that the Genocide section is called that?

                    If all this is really that pedantic and you understand that human rights abuses are bad, and Israel is committing human rights abuses, I guess I’ll take what I can get.

                    But it seems like you’re defending the acts Israel are committing on the basis that the section of the genocide section of the Geneva Convention is more in depth than just saying “don’t exterminate every single person in a group”.

                    Because by that logic, there wasn’t a genocide in North America for over a century against the indigenous people…

                    Even by that definition it doesn’t meet the UN term with what is happening in Gaza.

                    Your still ignoring the majority of what the Geneva Convention says…

                    I’ve linked it multiple times, and even quoted it once so you don’t have to click the link…

                    https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml

                    Specifically

                    Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

                    And

                    Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

                    But the link really goes into specifics that you should know, just read the link.

          • PupBiru
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            and literally literally means literally but now we use it to mean figuratively

            turns out language is about use, not origin