I built a M3 MBP just to see how much money a mxed out unit would be.
M3 14" MBP
Max chip with all the cores
128GB RAM
8TB storage
$4700
That’s about the cost of my last MBP and iPhone pair, two times over. At that point, why even go for a laptop, vs. what would clearly be a high end desktop station?
they are. (unless we’re talking about Mac only, which are not as repairable or upgradable)
desktop allow for a far better modularity, and reparability, far more ports, PCIe expansions like sound cards, etc.
If my screen breaks or I’d rather use a bigger one, I just buy a monitor and plug it in. If my CPU dies or is no more enough for my use case, I’ll just buy a better one while still using every other component. If I need more hard drives, I’ll just buy more SATA cables. If I need better sound, I’ll buy a sound card.
those features are dealbreakers. laptops will never be able to compete with a real desktop.
Desktops are superior even if only for the better cooling options, allowing your chips to sustain higher clockspeeds for longer without the machine sounding like a jet taking off
Skip apple entirely. The spec out and testing of the new Qualcomm ARM chip releasing in laptops next year looks to have the m3 beat across the board and will definitely end up at a lower price point.
It’s already been proven. They just had a big live tech press conference where they set up 20 laptops with the chips in them and all had them running windows with a bunch of different benchmarking software (all ones you’ve heard of if you’re in to that sort of thing) to prove the numbers, specs, and functionality, along with having some of their engineers there to answer any questions.
It’s not a “next years mythical chip”. It’s already here and they already proved it was all legitimate and that there were no “embellishments”. The laptops from all the different manufacturers that are slated to use the chip are set to sell mid 2024.
I built a M3 MBP just to see how much money a mxed out unit would be.
M3 14" MBP Max chip with all the cores 128GB RAM 8TB storage
$4700
That’s about the cost of my last MBP and iPhone pair, two times over. At that point, why even go for a laptop, vs. what would clearly be a high end desktop station?
*Wonders what a maxed out MBP costs.
*pics the 14”…
Maxed out 16” is $7,199.- (ex Apple care)
Maxed out 14” is $6,899.- … (I think you missed something)
Am I confused, or are you confidently asserting that desktop systems are objectively superior to laptops?
they are. (unless we’re talking about Mac only, which are not as repairable or upgradable)
desktop allow for a far better modularity, and reparability, far more ports, PCIe expansions like sound cards, etc.
If my screen breaks or I’d rather use a bigger one, I just buy a monitor and plug it in. If my CPU dies or is no more enough for my use case, I’ll just buy a better one while still using every other component. If I need more hard drives, I’ll just buy more SATA cables. If I need better sound, I’ll buy a sound card.
those features are dealbreakers. laptops will never be able to compete with a real desktop.
Desktops are superior even if only for the better cooling options, allowing your chips to sustain higher clockspeeds for longer without the machine sounding like a jet taking off
Are you implying they’re not? The only reason anyone even buys laptops is because PCs aren’t portable. Otherwise PCs are the best.
The only reason people buy cars instead of tennis shoes is because cars are faster
I feel like a better version of this is to use bycicles and motorcycles. Even with that said fuck tennis shoes boots are where its at.
Not the OP but yes
In terms of performance that is.
Because you can take that high-end computer with you across the room, on a plane, or anywhere else.
Skip apple entirely. The spec out and testing of the new Qualcomm ARM chip releasing in laptops next year looks to have the m3 beat across the board and will definitely end up at a lower price point.
Yes! By all means, buy next years’ mythical chip and instead of this proven one!
It’s already been proven. They just had a big live tech press conference where they set up 20 laptops with the chips in them and all had them running windows with a bunch of different benchmarking software (all ones you’ve heard of if you’re in to that sort of thing) to prove the numbers, specs, and functionality, along with having some of their engineers there to answer any questions.
It’s not a “next years mythical chip”. It’s already here and they already proved it was all legitimate and that there were no “embellishments”. The laptops from all the different manufacturers that are slated to use the chip are set to sell mid 2024.
When it’s out and independently proven, only then would I say that it’s fair to compare.
Did these chips have a translation in hardware like Rosetta? Or emulation that’s almost just as good? Edit: Found a couple things according to Qualcomm’s charts it looks interesting https://www.anandtech.com/show/21112/qualcomm-snapdragon-x-elite-performance-preview-a-first-look-at-whats-to-come But from what was observed along with other scores it looks a lot closer https://www.androidauthority.com/snapdragon-x-elite-benchmarks-3380426/
Just for fun, let me buy every upsell, regardless of whether I want or need it.
And then let me compare that to the normal configuration of things I bought…
Why don’t you compare apples to apples. Configure an M3 MBP like you would with fairly normal specs?
Well, technically all those computers are Apples, so they’re within their rights
Yeah I was trying to make a lame pun