Some people, communicating via satellite phones, have described the attack as the “heaviest bombardment yet,” according to independent journalist Sharif Kouddous.

“People can’t call ambulances or civil defense. We are being bombed in an unprecedented manner,” said an unidentified journalist at a Gaza hospital, according to a translation by The Nation’s Palestinian correspondent, Mohammed El-Kurd. “The sky around us just lights up [with explosions], and no one knows what’s going on.”

      • @aesthelete@lemmy.world
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        The natural world is chaotic and violent, so that means we as thinking humans who know what it is to suffer pain and the loss of loved ones, must not only add to that violence and chaos but also devise new, sophisticated ways of inflicting suffering. But also don’t forget that we’re better and more civilized than animals. /s

        • @intensely_human@lemm.ee
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          Until I experienced violence myself, I was unwilling to process the logic or think it through. Then I lived a portion of my life where I was in physical danger from very bad people, and I was forced to think it through.

          Being prepared to retaliate is the most effective defense against those who are not sympathetic to your needs, whom you cannot avoid. It’s why animals demo their weapons when cornered. It’s why plants “waste” energy producing toxins that harm would-be eaters.

          Every organism has weapons, and evolution’s been optimizing for over a billion years. Like, a little flap of skin no longer used is selected out over the course of a million years because it provides a disadvantage against those not wasting the energy to grow the little flap of skin. But nature spends energy putting claws on kittens. Why?

          It’s logical; it’s just ugly and unpleasant to acknowledge. The only time people acknowledge it is when their circumstances change such that not acknowledging it is worse. ie when they are faced with the necessity of dealing with violence.

          • @257m@sh.itjust.works
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            Yes, bombing children is simply the way the world works. Nothing we can do to stop genocide I guess. /s

            • @jarfil@lemmy.world
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              Based on known human history, the last time Humans stopped a genocide… was when we ate the last Neanderthal.

      • @intensely_human@lemm.ee
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        Oh thank god it is so good to see someone who understands.

        Cease-fire is the best we’ve got. MAD is why small animals have the instinct to fight bigger animals. It’s why pufferfish exist. Nature, unconsciously, groks deterrence and programs it into 100% of her evolved organisms.

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          That’s also why you can stand up to a bear and yell at it and the bear will run away, even though it could easily kill you… It doesn’t want to get in a fight.

      • @Riccosuave@lemmy.world
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        This speaks to your warped sense of what justice really is, and I pity those around you for how that must affect them as you go through life bleeding your vindictiveness onto others.

        The problem with those who are both shameless and arrogant is that they lack the self-awareness and empathy to put themselves in the shoes of others. May the universe show you the same level of mercy that you seem inclined to grant to others…

      • @JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca
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        If a dog bit a person and that person went to the pound and just kicked all the dogs, is sort of what you’re cheering for

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      What exactly is justice in context of a war? And do you realize that absolute justice for all sides means that the war will never end?

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          There can’t be „justice“ for things from the past. Everyone has to heal and make amends. You have to look into the future, so both sides learn to coexist.

          Worked for France and Germany and Worked for the IRA and the UK. Conflicts that lasted centuries (France/Germany) and decades (IRA/UK) were able to get resolved.

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            So you also agree that Israel should immediately cease the siege of Gaza and look toward a diplomatic solution that aims to heal both parties loss. Perhaps a brokered peace and lasting agreement by a neutral 3rd party to finally solve all disputes? I think that’s a wonderful idea.

            • dumdum666
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              While Hamas ceases fire and releases all hostages unconditionally at the same time of course. sounds like a splendid idea.

              • TinyPizzaOP
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                I believe that’s on the table

                Speaking at the United Nations, Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amirabdollahian said that Hamas is ready to release hostages on the condition that 6,000 Palestinians, who are currently in Israeli jails, are released as well.
                “According to our negotiations, Hamas is ready to release civilian prisoners. On the other hand, the world should support the release of 6,000 Palestinians held in Israeli prisons,” he told a meeting of the 193-member General Assembly on the Middle East on Thursday.

                Probably not the preferred outcome, but it stops the killing now

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                  That’s not an unconditional release of the hostages - so it’s very unlikely to happen.

                  • TinyPizzaOP
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                    There can’t be „justice“ for things from the past. Everyone has to heal and make amends. You have to look into the future, so both sides learn to coexist.

                    Your statement doesn’t jive then.

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          If you dont want genocided don’t try and genocide your neighbor. Pretty simple concept really

      • @jarfil@lemmy.world
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        What exactly is justice in context of a war?

        Whoever wins.

        The war will end when there are no sides left.

        Which is… either when everyone decides to put their differences aside… or when the last man standing finally dies, all tales get forgotten, and all written records destroyed, so nobody can ever pick any of the sides again. They’ll likely pick a different set of sides again, but that will be a different war 🤷

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        It is errors in justice that make wars grow.

        An excellent example of an error in justice is killing the people next to the people who attacked you. This conflict continues because there’s no clean line connecting an attacker to the retaliation back against that attacker.