Nadella, Gates, and Ballmer have all admitted to Microsoft’s mobile mistakes.

  • SeaJ
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    782 years ago

    Windows Phone failed because there were no apps for it. There was no YouTube app, no Facebook app, no Twitter app, etc until very late or never at all. They should have just paid developers to make the apps so that people would buy the phones. The OS was great and worked on a wide range of hardware. It could have been a great enterprise solution and they seemed to be heading that direction but the lack of third party made it little more than A Microsoft feature phone.

    • @teamonkey@lemm.ee
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      172 years ago

      They couldn’t even be bothered developing their own apps for it. The mail app began to lag behind Outlook on Android, Minecraft was never ported to it when it could have been a killer exclusive app.

      • SeaJ
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        82 years ago

        Google was often guilty of that too. I remember a number of Android apps that were pretty far behind the iOS ones. I don’t think that is the case anymore though.

        • @candybrie@lemmy.world
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          12 years ago

          There were also a bunch of iOS apps behind Android ones. Remember when iOS finally got widgets? Different companies focused on different functionality first. But at this point, android and iOS have had the time to play catch-up with each other.

          • SeaJ
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            22 years ago

            Difference being that Apple does not make Android apps. Google’s own apps on iOS were behind their own on Android. I recall the YouTube and Maps app missing some features for quite a while on Android that were on IOS. I get that companies silo teams from each other but it’s a little embarrassing when you’re software on your platform is behind your software on your competitor’s platform.

            OS-wise, yeah it has largely been Apple playing catch up with iOS aside from messaging.

    • @DontTreadOnBigfoot@lemmy.world
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      82 years ago

      This was the downfall of BlackBerry as well.

      QNX-based BB10 OS was phenomenal, and their hardware was top notch.

      It was the lacking app ecosystem that killed it.

      • @ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
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        32 years ago

        I was a BB developer right around the time of their demise. It never mattered how good or bad their OS was, because the development environment for BB was complete shit - which was a big part of why nobody wrote apps for it.

    • @ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
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      32 years ago

      They should have just paid developers to make the apps so that people would buy the phones.

      Blackberry at their end (circa 2011 or so) started handing out $10,000 grants to developers to make apps for them. I thought about applying for one, but $10K is not much at all to develop a decently-featured app that does anything, and BB’s development environment was such an unbelievable clusterfuck that really no amount of money could have made worthwhile to endure.

      Also: 16-bit color lol.

        • @ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
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          12 years ago

          5 bits each for red and blue and 6 for green. Who needs more than that?

          The only reason I liked it at all was that I created a lot of owner-drawn controls (since the built-in Blackberry “fields” were shit) that used a lot of bitmap memory for animation, and reducing your memory footprint by a factor of two (compared to 32-bit graphics) wasn’t worthless, especially for the older devices.

    • @eek2121@lemmy.world
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      22 years ago

      That is because every single mobile version of Windows was incompatible (After version 6) with the previous. They kept reinventing the wheel over and over again.

    • @_pete_@lemmy.world
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      22 years ago

      They totally did that

      The problem was that people weren’t really interested in any of it.

      The UI was cluttered and messy to look at, none of it was as polished or natural to use as iOS or Android.

      Plus there was no Google Maps, no Google Docs (and Office 365 wasn’t around to replace it), even that apps that were in the store felt pretty bad quality. I had Spotify on my iPhone and it was nearly flawless, when I switched to Windows Phone it kept cutting out or crashing or disconnecting from the mobile connection, it just wasn’t fully baked.

    • 18-24-61-B-17-17-4
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      12 years ago

      Snapchat was the big one missing that really put the nail in the coffin towards the end there.