• @zik@lemmy.world
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    362 years ago

    Smoking’s already dramatically fallen out of popularity with younger people, being replaced by vaping. So I don’t think it really matters what they do at this point - smoking’s a dinosaur waiting to die.

    • @COASTER1921@lemmy.ml
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      112 years ago

      Although vaping is far more popular and at least better than smoking, it’s still actively bad for health. I’d be interested to see how a similar policy to ban vapes would go over in the west like they’re trying in Taiwan.

      • @Chunk@lemmy.world
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        82 years ago

        Fast food, alcohol, motorcycles, and Instagram are also bad for your health. I’m not sure how vaping compares. Vaping is definitely easier to demonize.

        • @sour@feddit.de
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          42 years ago

          Motorcycles aren’t bad for your health. Crashing them is, but just driving them isn’t, even doing it a lot. Unlike the other things you mentioned where doing them a lot is unhealthy.

          • @abraxas@sh.itjust.works
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            22 years ago

            Vaping isn’t bad for your health, it’s what you put into the vape that might be. There are already commonly used medical technologies that are adjacent to vaping, and many researchers think we will be able to use vaping in the future to replace hypodermic needles in some situations.

          • @Chunk@lemmy.world
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            02 years ago

            They are statistically bad for your health.

            By your own argument, you would agree with the statement: “Smoking cigarettes isn’t bad for your health. Lung cancer is.”

            • @sour@feddit.de
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              12 years ago

              Nope, doesn’t need to end in lung cancer for it to be bad.

              Take it this way:

              You can drive motorcycle for hours every day for years and not take any health casualties from it.

              You can’t smoke cigarettes every day for years and not take any health casualties from it.

        • @isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de
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          12 years ago

          That is indeed true, but don’t forget that vaping addiction comes from the nicotine inside it that gets into your body physically. Riding a motorcycle or being on Instagram are still addictive but they don’t “force” it upon you

          • @Chunk@lemmy.world
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            62 years ago

            I actually don’t vape. I just see a vice that seems relatively harmless and I don’t think we should demonize it. Even if vape people are annoying.

              • @abraxas@sh.itjust.works
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                2 years ago

                This article is why I’m against demonizing vapes.

                Regularly, you see these news articles about illegal vapes getting people sick. Because they are illegal and unregulated.

                Regularly, governments and media try to use those revelations to attack the legal vape industry, which works quite hard to make sure not to ever release vapes with high lead, nickel, or (the famous one) Vitamin E. The whole popcorn lung thing was practically an ad campaign where I live. They kept (accidentally I’m sure) leaving out that NOT A SINGLE ONE vape pen in my area that had Vitamin E in it came from our smoke shops or legal dispensaries.

                Why? To demonize vapes.

                I have a sister who vaped for a year before she got bored of it. I am grateful that we had a regulated industry that made sure the vapes she got her hand on weren’t going to really hurt her.

      • @abraxas@sh.itjust.works
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        22 years ago

        actively bad for health

        Interesting turn of phrase. What is “actively bad for health”, really? Experts seem to be pretty convinced that as bad as Vaping might be, it’s not as bad as alcohol. And we in the US know what happens when you try to ban alcohol. I have Prohibition to thank for the incredible Whiskey industry of today.

      • @Daft_ish@lemmy.world
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        2 years ago

        Everything about smoking is cool. Especially the part where it devastates your body before killing you in the most terrible way possible, drowning in your own fluids. Kinda hoping on the world ending so I can say fuck it and pick it up again.