• @Bigdude1420@lemmy.world
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    102 years ago

    It’s a lot easier to pass a law banning the sale of artificial drinks to minors than it is to ban coffee sales to minors.

    • @uis@lemmy.world
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      -32 years ago

      Artificial drinks, not caffeine? Coffee is artificial drink too because it is human-made.

      It nearly impossible to define energy-drinks in a way that does not include coffee, but include off-the-shelf drinks.

      • @I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.ml
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        2 years ago

        Coffee has its beans dried and roasted, then ground and seeped in water. If you’re going to call that artificial, then you are claiming that literally any cooked food is also artificial.

        • @uis@lemmy.world
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          And you are correct.

          For those who think energy drinks are not the same, please point out at which stage coffee is no longer coffee and why:

          1. Make coffee
          2. Filter it
          3. Evaporate more water
          4. Add sugar
          • @I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.ml
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            I’m gonna go with the step you didn’t list which is soaking them in dichloromethane or ethyl acetate for several hours, or submersing them in high pressure, supercritical carbon dioxide, to extract the pure caffeine. Then adding that pure caffeine into a mixture of artificial sugars, preservatives, and food dyes.

            But sure, that’s totally the same as something that’s essentially a type of tea.

            • @uis@lemmy.world
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              -12 years ago

              submersing them in high pressure, supercritical carbon dioxide

              Whoa! Didn’t know you can boil in CO2 too.

              artificial sugars

              Nah, too expensive.

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          Coffee has its beans dried and roasted

          Coffee beans are dried. Then beans then ungo a Maillard reaction, caramelisation, pyrolysis and decarboxilation to form new organic componds

          then ground and seeped in water

          Then ground to maximize the surface area. The prouder is then extracted using unpure H2O as solvent. A higher temperature is needed to raise the solubility of the compounds.