God, that was a bad read. Not only is this person woefully misinformed, they’re complaining about the state of discourse while directly contributing to the problem.
If you’re going to write about tech, at least take some time to have a pasaable understanding of it, not just “I use the product for shits and giggles occasionally.”
I’ll preface this by saying I’m not an expert, and I don’t like to speak authoritatively on things that I’m not an expert in, so it’s possible I’m mistaken. Also I’ve had a drink or two, so that’s not helping, but here we go anyways.
In the article, the author quips on a tweet where they seem to fundamentally misunderstand how LLMs work:
I tabbed over to another tab, and the top post on my Bluesky feed was something along these lines:
ChatGPT is not a search engine. It does not scan the web for information. You cannot use it as a search engine. LLMs only generate statistically likely sentences.
The thing is… ChatGPT was over there, in the other tab, searching the web. And the answer I got was pretty good.
The tweet is correct. The LLM has a snapshot understanding of the internet based on its training data. It’s not what we would generally consider a true index based search.
Training LLMs is a costly and time consuming process, so it’s fundamentally impossible to regenerate an LLM in the same order of magnitude of time it takes to make a simple index.
The author fails to address any of these issues, which suggests to me that they don’t know what they’re talking about.
I suppose I could conceded that an LLM can fulfill a similar role that a search engine traditionally has, but it’d kinda be like saying that a toaster is an oven. They’re both confined boxes which heat food, but good luck if you try to bake 2 pies at once in a toaster.
Not only is Steve right that ChatGPT writes better than the average person (which is indeed an elitist asshole take), ChatGPT has better logical reasoning than the average lemmy commenter
God, that was a bad read. Not only is this person woefully misinformed, they’re complaining about the state of discourse while directly contributing to the problem.
If you’re going to write about tech, at least take some time to have a pasaable understanding of it, not just “I use the product for shits and giggles occasionally.”
In what way, about what? Can you elaborate?
How so?
Why do you insinuate that they do not?
I’ll preface this by saying I’m not an expert, and I don’t like to speak authoritatively on things that I’m not an expert in, so it’s possible I’m mistaken. Also I’ve had a drink or two, so that’s not helping, but here we go anyways.
In the article, the author quips on a tweet where they seem to fundamentally misunderstand how LLMs work:
The tweet is correct. The LLM has a snapshot understanding of the internet based on its training data. It’s not what we would generally consider a true index based search.
Training LLMs is a costly and time consuming process, so it’s fundamentally impossible to regenerate an LLM in the same order of magnitude of time it takes to make a simple index.
The author fails to address any of these issues, which suggests to me that they don’t know what they’re talking about.
I suppose I could conceded that an LLM can fulfill a similar role that a search engine traditionally has, but it’d kinda be like saying that a toaster is an oven. They’re both confined boxes which heat food, but good luck if you try to bake 2 pies at once in a toaster.
I think chat gpt does web searches now, maybe for the reasoning models. At least it looks like it’s doing that.
Most do
One doesn’t’t need to know how an engine works to know the Ford pinto was a disaster
One doesn’t need tknow how llms work to know they are pretty destructive and terrible
Nite I’m not going to argue this. It’s just how things are now, and no apologetics will change what it is.
Not only is Steve right that ChatGPT writes better than the average person (which is indeed an elitist asshole take), ChatGPT has better logical reasoning than the average lemmy commenter
https://chatgpt.com/share/6837f656-b1b0-8008-ac31-d8858bd17da5
What world are you living in?
Reality, where observation precedes perception
Your username is ‘anus’, and you’re posting nonsensical blog slop on Lemmy.
That’s an interesting reality that I’m not sure many others participate in.
The irony of focusing on my username when logical coherence is in question
Well, hey, if I changed my name to “Dumbfuck Mc’Dipshitterson” I think I’d have a PR problem as well.
Oh no, not my public image!
An observation is perception(?).
Try asking ChatGPT if you’re confused
I’m making that statement. Sorry if it was unclear.
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Dude. Go outside